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the truth about Hell

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azeriphaile

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the truth about hell is that there is no hell
hell uis the absence of god and the absence of god is not posible especially since we are all part of god hell is when you preceive you are in the absences of god your preseption of what is right and wrong is what makes thing right and wrong in your life god dose not have this same definition of what is correct and what is incorrect god does not punish you or tourturw you for your actions you punnish your self
 
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Majikthise

Guest
Welcome to RF!!!:jiggy: Well said!!What an awsome way to see things. I think you'll fit right in here.
 
Melody

Melody

Well-Known Member
azeriphaile said:
the truth about hell is that there is no hell
hell uis the absence of god and the absence of god is not posible especially since we are all part of god hell is when you preceive you are in the absences of god your preseption of what is right and wrong is what makes thing right and wrong in your life god dose not have this same definition of what is correct and what is incorrect god does not punish you or tourturw you for your actions you punnish your self
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Welcome to RF. You might want to put a few punctuation marks in there so it's easier to read. :)
 
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true blood

Active Member
Hail,

In Hebrew the word Sheol was translated into the Greek word Hades. The Hebrew Sheol meaning the common grave of mankind. The word Sheol is first used in Genesis 37:35 and is translated "grave". Ten times in the New Testament the word "hell" is used as a translation of the original Greek word "Hades." In other words, if you were to read the original Greek text, you would not see the word "hell," but instead you would see the word "hades." And "hades" is derived from an Anglo-Saxon root meaning ‘to conceal' or ‘to cover'. Why did the translators use the word "hell" instead of "grave"? And why is it that people think of it then as a place of eternal misery and torture and an abode of evil spirits? When in reality, if anyone actually took the time to study the scriptures, all it means is "the common grave of mankind"?
 
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may

Well-Known Member
true blood said:
Hail,

In Hebrew the word Sheol was translated into the Greek word Hades. The Hebrew Sheol meaning the common grave of mankind. The word Sheol is first used in Genesis 37:35 and is translated "grave". Ten times in the New Testament the word "hell" is used as a translation of the original Greek word "Hades." In other words, if you were to read the original Greek text, you would not see the word "hell," but instead you would see the word "hades." And "hades" is derived from an Anglo-Saxon root meaning ‘to conceal' or ‘to cover'. Why did the translators use the word "hell" instead of "grave"? And why is it that people think of it then as a place of eternal misery and torture and an abode of evil spirits? When in reality, if anyone actually took the time to study the scriptures, all it means is "the common grave of mankind"?
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yes , this is correct this is what i believe as well, how can anyone think that a loving God would torture people in fire for ever
 
iaminterface

iaminterface

Member
I really like this perspective on viewing hell. I also don't believe any creator that loved his creation would send them to hell for not believing in a certain idea. I like the idea that maybe hell is just "death". Good posts.
 
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fredm596

New Member
I am a little confused about this not being a Hell thing. He gave us 10 Commandments to follow, but if there is no punishment for not following them, then, my question is why have any rules at all?

please help me to find an answer?

thanks
 
James the Persian

James the Persian

Dreptcredincios Crestin
We Orthodox don't believe in the whole hell as a place of torture thing that you often find Christians believing in - certainly not a place of demons, fire and pitchforks. Nor, however, do we conceive it as being a place separate from God. We believe all will be in the presence of God's love and that if you love Him you will feel it as joy whilst if you hate Him your experience will be one of an unquenchable fire. In effect, it's not so much a place as a state and we, not God, create it when we turn our backs on Him.

James
 
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may

Well-Known Member
fredm596 said:
I am a little confused about this not being a Hell thing. He gave us 10 Commandments to follow, but if there is no punishment for not following them, then, my question is why have any rules at all?

please help me to find an answer?

thanks
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Ezek. 18:4: "The soul that is sinning—it itself will die." ("Soul," KJ, Dy, RS, NE, Kx; "the man," JB; "the person," TEV.)it was not Gods original purpose for man to die , but it was his purpose for man to live forever , we all know what happened thou , the first human couple disobeyed God .that is why we are all in a dying state.

That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men because they had all sinned(romans 5;12)so the first couple were not sent to a fireyplace but from then on they were in a dying state .but we can be glad that Jehovah God has sent his son to give us the chance to have everlasting life back again

This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ(john 17;3)

For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life(john 3;16) But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth,And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace(psalm 37;11)

But there are new heavens and a new earth that we are awaiting according to his promise, and in these righteousness is to dwell(2 peter; 3;13)

With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: "Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his peoples. And God himself will be with them. And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.(revelation 21;3-4)

 
Cr0wley

Cr0wley

More Human Than Human
This "DEATH" you refer to: If you say there's no fire/place of punishment, is it that your soul dissapears? Stops existing?

Is that really as bad as they make it out to be?
 
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may

Well-Known Member
Cr0wley said:
This "DEATH" you refer to: If you say there's no fire/place of punishment, is it that your soul dissapears? Stops existing?

Is that really as bad as they make it out to be?
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the bible tells us that the soul that is sinning ,it itself will die so the soul is you, its not something seperate, the chance to live again lies with Gods power of the resurrection and he will use Jesus to do this, those in Gods memory of course.
Do not marvel at this, because the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment(john 5; 28-29)judgement from then on ,not from their past deeds before they died.

 
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Seconde

Member
may said:
yes , this is correct this is what i believe as well, how can anyone think that a loving God would torture people in fire for ever
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Hi,

Bad people deserve to be punished. Good people deserve to be rewarded. It cannot be put any simpler.
 
Sunstone

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Seconde said:
Hi,

Bad people deserve to be punished. Good people deserve to be rewarded. It cannot be put any simpler.
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Yes, but in the real world, most bad people are good in some ways, and most good people are bad in some ways. Most people really aren't black and white characters in a melodrama.
 
jewscout

jewscout

Religious Zionist
azeriphaile said:
the truth about hell is that there is no hell
hell uis the absence of god and the absence of god is not posible especially since we are all part of god hell is when you preceive you are in the absences of god your preseption of what is right and wrong is what makes thing right and wrong in your life god dose not have this same definition of what is correct and what is incorrect god does not punish you or tourturw you for your actions you punnish your self
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this is a lie!!:tsk:

Hell is a very real place!


http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?country=US&addtohistory=&formtype=address&searchtype=address&cat=&address=&city=hell&state=MI&zipcode=&searchtab=home

It's just north west of Ann Arbor:D
 
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