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Sign of the cross

Melody

Well-Known Member
Dr. Khan said:
The mark of the beast would therefore be the sign of the cross. We have seen some today who still apply that mark as it is written.
I may be sorry I asked this...but you've mentioned this several times in other threads. Why do you believe the cross is the mark of the beast. In my belief, it is a sign of the risen Christ.
 

Dr. Khan

Member
Melody said:
I may be sorry I asked this...but you've mentioned this several times in other threads. Why do you believe the cross is the mark of the beast. In my belief, it is a sign of the risen Christ.
The sign of the risen Christ is the Holy Spirit.
Acts 4:33 And with great power the apostles gave witness of theresurrection of the Lord Jesus. Acts 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so also is the holy Ghost, whom God has given to them that obey him.
The holy Spirit is the greatest and best witness of The Lord Jesus. Jesus spoker of him (the spirit) saying it is expedient that I go away... I will send him to you and when he is come he will glorify me(Jesus) John 14-16

The Spirit of the Lord spoke to me in April -May of 2001 saying "Constantine" I awakened and began to mindstorm with all the information that I had ever heard in history and with regards to bible prophecy. For some reason the interpretation of prophecy as given by the ministry lacked any certainty, for some reason to me. I guess I always kept an open mind about things like the rapture and it's forecasting.


A secrets of the dead program sought of acted as a cataylst for me when they provided forensic evidence of the volcanic explosion which urshered in the dark age after 546 ad I believe any way at that point I had my mountain burning as it were in the sea. Prophesied as in Revelation. I understood how the two beasts in Revelation is the Roman Empire and rhe Holy Roman Empire understanding that beasts are nations and horns are kings. The Holy Roman Empire had two Kings after a little king usurped the Authority of three Kings. That little king healed the wound of the Roman Empire whose head wound was deadly. In 800ad The little king made emperors and kings within the empire and he used the sign of the cross to do it. The Romans used the cross for crucifixion. The holy Romans used it to Kill millions in the crusades and say its for Christ. Crusades means wars of the cross.

When I realized all these things I was astonished. I believe that armageddion was the crusades as the holy Spirit led me in the Scriptures in Joel to confirm , saying to me multitudes , multitudes in the vally of decision.



When The President went after Osama that was one thing but when He used this situation to exploit our recsources to lay waste Iraq just to get at Saddam. Well that another thing. And now I know that I gave you more than you asked for but war is hell to allthose who partisipate in it.

If you look back at the crusades for a minute you can see that nothing good has come from it being that here we are a thousand years later fighting the same war, with different motivations. I have taken a long look at the cross since I have considered it in 2001. I cannot find a single thing that should replace it;it's already used. I've seen people use it. I've seen people mark their foreheads. And in Europe during the dark and middle ages no one went anywhere with out it.
 

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
Let me understand this...

You are talking about the ICON of the cross being the Mark of the Beast?

Well, I find that a bit short sighted. However, icons have always been condemned by God. They replace the focus on a living God to that of a dead symbol. This would apply to statues of the Christ or Mary as well.
 

Dr. Khan

Member
NetDoc said:
Let me understand this...

You are talking about the ICON of the cross being the Mark of the Beast?

Well, I find that a bit short sighted. However, icons have always been condemned by God. They replace the focus on a living God to that of a dead symbol. This would apply to statues of the Christ or Mary as well.


Yes, I found a great deal of scripture regarding images. I ignored these scripture until those days in 2001.


I had declared war on Islam the previous year prophesying it's destruction and when I began to celebrate in 2001 it's as if God was revealing to me that we must correct ourselves before we advance on Islam. The sign of the cross has become a beam in our eye how then can we remove the speck in theirs. The moderate Christian says live and let live. While a billion and a half people are perishing due to a religion holding them captive to lies, which we can't prove with out the power of God. Which does not come in the way of blood letting.



A common practise I might add by the use of the image. Our sign of Jesus should be a new creature.
 

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
I have a friend who wears the empty tomb as a pendant.

I think Christianity's real "beam" is not a graven image, but our intolerance and lack of love. I repent of that every single day.
 

Dr. Khan

Member
NetDoc said:
I have a friend who wears the empty tomb as a pendant.

I think Christianity's real "beam" is not a graven image, but our intolerance and lack of love. I repent of that every single day.
that may be due to the sign of the cross. There have been so many wars and divisions due to the inability to submit ourselves to one another. This is due to the refusal to crucify ourselves as Jesus Commanded. Remember the prodical; his brother stayed and obeyed but was bitter, not obtaining the honour that was his. Then too I realize that we are at God's mercy and he it is that shall change the world. in your patience possess ye your souls.

WE have not seen the end yet, it's glorious!!!
Jesus is doing the works.
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
Melody said:
I may be sorry I asked this...but you've mentioned this several times in other threads. Why do you believe the cross is the mark of the beast. In my belief, it is a sign of the risen Christ.
Melody, in case you are still 'not happy, I quote from http://www.catholic.org/

Use of Articles of Devotion. (Verbatim follows:)
"The faithful, who devoutly use an article of devotion (crucifix or
cross, rosary, scapular or medal) properly blessed by any priest,
obtain a partial indulgence.
"But if the article of devotion has been blessed by the Sovereign
Pontiff or by any Bishop, the faithful, using it, can also gain a
PLENARY INDULGENCE on the feast of the Holy Apostles, Peter and Paul, provided they also make a profession of faith according to any legitimate formula.":)
 
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