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Oh no there's a homosexual in me!
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In fact, I appreciate that. Just be advised that being truthful is not at all identical to being accurate.Dr. Khan said:
Prima
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Dr Khan, I must say that I, at least, am thrilled that that you have homosexuality within yourself! I knew there had to be something about you that I liked. And as the Bible says, there is good in everyone. I am so happy that you found this part of yourself!
How untrue! I'm sure Dr Khan can detect these.
Impossible. You see, Jesus never said a word about homosexuality, and he certainly didn't criticize it.
Green Gaia
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Sunstone said:
Well of course I knew... why do you think I wear this tin foil hat? So my vibrations don't radiate! I was testing Kahn.
Jesus is no homosexual.....Jesus came not to condemn sinners but to deliver tham form sin.Prima said:
What? do you have a problem with deliverance from sin. I don't I'm glad to have someone die, lay down his life, let his own blood pay the price, take in himself the sting of death, accept rejection for me, to be all alone on the cross, before a mean and hateful croud that spit on him drove spikes into his hands and feet, set acrown of thorns on his head, when he could have called a legion of angels to his rescue at anytime.
I know that if it was me that the very idea of going through that judging by my own weakness of character that I have displayed in the past I would have caloled those angels and chose the easy way out for me, and left you to face the eternal wrath of God who is able to raise a better race of people out of the rocks on the ground. Forgive my rants.
I have condemned no one. But I suspect that my posts offend you, because I defend the gospel of Christ not to your liking, but then I can only defend it from my point of view, which is that Jesus is alive. My care and concern is over the church it's increase in the knowledge of God.oracle said:
A openly homosexual bishop of the Anglican Church has divided the flock of God in the sight of men, causing them to blaspheme. This makes evangelization more difficult, gives the enemy(satan) more ground.
Let me make myself plain and I hope you can see this from my point of view.If homosexualality is permitted in the church then premarital sex will be seeking approval then adultery then pediphilia then others and so on. You see, the fornicater will say to himself, it's alright for him to behave as he wants to. The Adulter likewise. Though many, many, many, adulters and fornicators, even murders, and questionable people attend church they are not free to flaunt it as a normal and acceptable behaviour.
This is my point and what I believe most Christians who resist the notion that homosexuality is an acceptable behavior. this is not hate. No Adulterer may openly declare himself as such without repentance. Now that being said I empathize with those who see a lot of questionable behavior by christians who commit and do horrible things they go to church but do some of the worst things to other people. But remember the church it self does not have the final say about giving persons rights as christians.
Now if you think I'm tough on the gay and lesbian community you have heard nothing compared to what i am ready to do to a particular denomination which according to Revelation 18 is most guilty of the greatest sin of all. The judgment set on Her is that she is an abomination to God. Her image in the world seems so that she might remain forever. She appears to be so great and mighty yet she shall fall before thewhole world and then you will know that her sins which go way back to Constantine are great, and I hate her for what she has done to many many souls, in and out of her. My hope is in her destruction the whole world including her inhabitants might truly be saved in the last day. For give me for preaching to you. I was shut up for 25 years.
kiwimac
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Actually Mr. Khan why don't you read what Gene Robinson Actually said.
Kiwimac.
Perhaps it would be useful to <GASP> Confirm what folk say before fulminating upon it?Gay Bishop Denies Saying Jesus Gay
MANCHESTER, N.H., April 5, 2005
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"I dearly love my family, and I love my own family, with my own two kids. It just looks a little nontraditional. But this Jesus, when you ask who is Jesus, he was not terribly mainstream, was he?"
[size=-2]Bishop V. Gene Robinson
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(AP) The first openly gay Anglican bishop says he is being falsely accused of suggesting that Jesus might have been homosexual.
"I can assure you with absolute certainty that was not my implication, and certainly not anything I ever said," Bishop V. Gene Robinson told the New Hampshire Union Leader. He is a bishop in the Episcopal Church, the U.S. branch of the Anglican Communion.
He said he is "being flooded with angry messages" because of Web log comments about his comments at a Feb. 13 forum on sexual issues at Christ Church in Hamilton, Massachusetts.
Robinson said he was making the point that the nuclear family is a relatively new idea and that, even for his time, Jesus apparently led a nontraditional life.
"Interestingly enough, in this day of traditional family values and so on," Robinson says in a recording from the forum on the church's Web site, "this man that we follow ... was single as far as we know; who traveled with a bunch of men, although there were lots of women around; who had a disciple who was known as 'the one whom Jesus loved'; who said 'my family is not my mother and father, my family are those who do the will of God' none of us like those harsh words. That's who Jesus is, that's who he was, at least in his earthly life."
Pointing out that Jesus was not married with children "is a long way from saying Jesus is gay, or saying that he had sex with anyone, male or female," Robinson said Monday.
Robinson married and had two daughters before accepting his own homosexuality. He has lived for years with his male partner.
"I happen to think the traditional family is a wonderful thing. I'm a product of it," said at the Hamilton forum. "I dearly love my family, and I love my own family, with my own two kids. It just looks a little nontraditional. But this Jesus, when you ask who is Jesus, he was not terribly mainstream, was he?"
Robinson did not immediately respond to a phone message from The Associated Press seeking comment Tuesday.
The Episcopal Church has 2.4 million members and is part of the 77 million-member Anglican Communion, which traces its roots to the Church of England. The church has been roiled by controversy since Robinson's ordination in 2003
Kiwimac.
oracle said:
:jiggy: This is about souls continuing into eternal life. Eternal life begins while we live in this world. It is not the reward we receive at the end of a good life. I quote a good friend and preacher who said "there are a lot of good people going to hell." this is based upon the fact that Jesus said to Nicademus "you must be born again to even see the Kingdom of God." Paul said "if any man be in Christ he is a new creature old things have passed away behold all things are become new." This friend preaching was was referring to the fact that many people go to church who never have become new creatures. The epistles of Paul help people identify the characteristics of the new creature and what is expected of him.
This new creature is Christ in you the hope of glory.
Paul continues saying but we all with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord are changed into the same image from glory to glory even as by the Spirit of the Lord. James says "that when we don't practise what we preach we forget what manner of man we were." This implyes that we can loose ground when we turn back to the ways of the world.
Again my intention is not to offend but to inform from an insiders point of view, based upon Corinthians 2:9-16. Because I have this experience and checked and re-checked myself I testify to you that I am spiritual enough to Judge.
Paul said let him that is least esteemed among you be your judges. ...So it is scriptural to judge.
By the way I am destroyed from the moment I accept Jesus (my redeemer)into my life giving him complete and total authority to rule me. And why because early on when I believed in him I realized that I had no idea how to live my life. The infilling of his Spirit, it's experience, told me I know nothing like I had ought to know. There I was 24 years old and I never Knew that there is a unmeasurable supply of unlimited love in Jesus so that he would enslave me with rivers of living water, cause In that instant I knew that there is nothing in the human race that could exceed Jesus in pleasure. That was in 1978. And today thare is still no human invention or experience that can exceed what Jesus has already done to me and that was only the beginning.
kiwimac said:
What he said or didn't say has nothing to do really with this thread. You can easily see i was reponding to other threads in this forum. My problem is not with what he said ,but rather what he and those members of the ministry which confirmed his position have done.
Eternal life is for every person; how ever there are things to be rejected. When we build houses and any thing that is manufactured there are things left over to be burned.oracle said:
we all have certain conditions and codes of conduct which we expect others to follow when the come to our house and places of business. Should'nt God be afforded this right.
His first commandment is that we love him with all our heart. If he love us he will chasen us. Hebrews 12:6
I have spent too much time in this thread, but it is an error to think that the invisible God does not hate sin. Sin is our enemy; it seperates us from a loving and caring Father in Jesus Christ who loves us too much for us to be divided. But how can we be united in the love of God when I am afraid of you because you wish to have me see things your way; an opinion that would destroy all of christianity, should Christians accept the idea that the apostles are wrong, whom Jesus said blessed are they who believe your testimonies. Why not change Islam?
I am sorry, I have never heard of this. In my - presumably ignorance - I would have imagined that homosexuals are more 'female brain' orientated, and would therefore be morelikely to be non-violent, more compassionate and loving than heterosexuals.Sunstone said:
Can you explain why I am wrong ?
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