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Al Franken may become senator after legal allegations against Coleman

Mathematician

Reason, and reason again
wcco.com - Could Allegations Invalidate Senate Results?

Allegations have surfaced of voter irregularities involving a paid staffer of Norm Coleman, and the ramifications could have a profound impact on the outcome of Coleman's race against Al Franken.

A reporter for the Minnesota Independent, a progressive online publication, was working on a story about voter turnout when she overheard that Republican poll challengers monitoring voting at the precinct had brought in Mahamoud Wardere to help voters translate.

The Coleman campaign confirmed that Wardere is a paid member of their staff

"I had already spoken to at least three people who told me that translators were telling them to vote for Norm Coleman," she said.

The issue could end up being the basis of a legal challenge. According to Prof. Joe Daly of Hamline University, state election law has a provision that if there is a deliberate, serious or material violation of state election law, a district court judge must gather the evidence and present it to the presiding officer of the U.S. Senate, who would then decide the merits of the allegations.

The Senate could even revoke the results of the election and decide who would be seated as senator.
 

lilithu

The Devil's Advocate
Franken doesn't need legal allegations against Coleman. He won the recount by 225 votes. Woot! :woohoo:


Of course Coleman is contesting. :rolleyes:
 

Natas

Active Member
Franken doesn't need legal allegations against Coleman. He won the recount by 225 votes. Woot! :woohoo:


Of course Coleman is contesting. :rolleyes:

I would too. I imagine Franken was going to keep the recounting process going until it showed him ahead, and then suddenly be content with the results.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
You can only keep counting till you've tabulated all the ballots, Natas. This has now been done, and Franken came out ahead. That's democracy for you.
All Coleman's doing is wasting more of our tax dollars in a fit of pique.

Weren't the Republicans criticizing the Democrats for not accepting the results of a partial count a few years ago?
The Democrats, as I recall, politely and graciously bowed out -- and were subsequently found to have garnered the majority vote.
Inasmuch as our country subsequently went to pot, I can understand why Frankin didn't want to repeat that mistake.
 

Natas

Active Member
You can only keep counting till you've tabulated all the ballots, Natas. This has now been done, and Franken came out ahead. That's democracy for you.
All Coleman's doing is wasting more of our tax dollars in a fit of pique.

Weren't the Republicans criticizing the Democrats for not accepting the results of a partial count a few years ago?
The Democrats, as I recall, politely and graciously bowed out -- and were subsequently found to have garnered the majority vote.
Inasmuch as our country subsequently went to pot, I can understand why Frankin didn't want to repeat that mistake.

Let's pretend for a moment that you are correct in your assumption that the Democrats "politely and graciously bowed out-- and were subsequently found to have garnered the majority vote."

Why then would Coleman want to repeat such a horrendous mistake?
I say keep tabulating the votes until it shows a majority in my favor, THEN they're all tabulated.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
But they are, all, tabulated, my friend. Every one -- and Frankin got more votes.
Coleman has no real hope, but he's a Republican and, thus, mentally challenged, irrational and subject to tantrums.
 

Natas

Active Member
But they are, all, tabulated, my friend. Every one -- and Frankin got more votes.
Coleman has no real hope, but he's a Republican and, thus, mentally challenged, irrational and subject to tantrums.

And here I thought Democrats were "polite & gracious".
Your personal attacks against Republicans show you to be the one mentally challenged, my friend.
 

lilithu

The Devil's Advocate
I imagine Franken was going to keep the recounting process going until it showed him ahead, and then suddenly be content with the results.
The recounting process has an objective end. It ends when all the votes have been recounted, whether your guy won or lost.


I say keep tabulating the votes until it shows a majority in my favor, THEN they're all tabulated.
Are you actually serious? I cannot fathom that anyone could seriously have such a mindset. The person with the most number of votes wins, because it means the majority of people wanted that person to be their elected representative. That's why it's called a democracy.
 
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