fromthe heart said:
That is quite a statement from an atheist...Too bad you don't see the forest for the trees.
You are intitled to your opinion...so Let's just say you are so misinformed from the christian standpoint.
As far as what the bible says about heaven:
Now, I completely expect to be censored for this response, sense it seems to be the norm for this website to allow beleivers to make nagging little claims such as the one above... but not allow the atheist to defend himself. And by the way, I am not going off topic with this either. The topic is heaven, my point is to prove that "Heaven" is a figment of bronze age imagination.
I am misinformed from the christian stand point?
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Genesis 1:6-10[/font]
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"And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day. And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so. And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good."[/font]
This is the origin of that strange structure in the sky that the bible refers to as the firmament, or "Heaven". Strange that he should create the "Heaven" twice, because he has already made it in Genesis 1:1. Apparently there was water which needed dividing, and that is why the sky is blue... becuase the firmament has divided the waters above, from the waters below. And that is also where the rain comes from. As strange as it may seem to todays thinking, this does seem to have a good base to it, because if you do not understand that water evaporates and then rains back down again, this explanation would definitely stick. God made the solid sky in one day (read; ONE DAY, not millions, he specifically says that the evening and the morning were the second day.) The firmament IS NOT the dry land, god mentions dry land in these verses, and they are NOT called the firmament. The firmament IS the sky, IS the "Heaven".
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Genesis 1:14-18[/font]
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"And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good."[/font]
Those lights in the firmament are permanently "set" into this solid structure, which spins around our fixed planet. And yes, God says that the moon gives off its own "lesser light" instead of reflecting the light of the sun. Well...God thinks that its good.
Still dont beleive that heaven means the solid sky called the firmament, checok this verse out that has god "opening the windows of Heaven"..LOL
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Genesis 7:11-12[/font]
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"In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights."[/font]
WOW, 600 YEARS OLD! I think its safe to say that Noah is just as mythical as the "windows" in the sky / Heaven that were opened to let the rain fall down to flood the Earth.
Exerpts from my website can be found here:
http://www.reverendjeremiah.com/cosmology.htm
go there and check out the original animation I made of Christian cosmology.
Are you living life like there IS a divinity? With more than one million possible gods and goddesses, with many different punishment afterlifes for the crimes of not beleiving them... you better be RIGHT!
