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Who are you really?

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capslockf9

Active Member
Domestication is a word used by the Toltecas - to discribe the programing that is inculcated into an infant mind. They used the term Smokey Mirror as a metaphor to "what we see".
That is, that what we think we see is really an obscure reflection limited or unlimited by the extent of that domestication.

So what people see is preconcieved ideas or prejudices they do not see the real you and you them.
 
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Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
I'm almost certain of it, especially since I know that several different people interpret me differently. I really don't care though.
 
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capslockf9

Active Member
Shadow Wolf said:
I'm almost certain of it, especially since I know that several different people interpret me differently. I really don't care though.
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Good, but know that we also see them through our own filter. They see you through their filter and you see them through yours. Do not take anything personally. They see a world as theyve been programed.
 
Heneni

Heneni

Miss Independent
dawny0826 said:
I think sometimes, that people, especially in my professional life, see me as someone more "together" than I really am. I'm relieved, actually because I feel at times that I'm falling to pieces.

I am honest with myself, though. Even when it's hard...I'm brutally honest and am more often than not, my worst critic. (I'm a Capricorn.)
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But that is a good thing right? If people percieve you as having it together, perhaps you do, for them, but maybe your not feeling like you have it together, for yourself. Probably because as you have said you are your worst critic. About that point. You see yourself as your worst critic. Do others see you that way?

capslockf9 said:
The problem is the preferrential viewpoint from this people and not knowing.

Consider the wolf; a great slick magnificant wolf bounding through the woods. To a naturalist that wolf is a natural brother. To a hunter that wolf is a trophy or fur-coat. To a scientist that wolf is a dispassionate object to be studied. To a rancher that wolf is a competetor.
The wolf is all of this AND none of this.


Knowing that your point of view may not be the truth is part of awareness, or enlightenment
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Good point. But surely if you were the wolf, wouldnt you want to be understood before you are shot? heh heh

cardero said:
You don't have to be a star baby, to be in my show.
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Im not quite sure which show that is...but sign me up.:)

Shadow Wolf said:
I'm almost certain of it, especially since I know that several different people interpret me differently. I really don't care though.
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Well thats the thing..mostly we dont care if people who are not intricately involved in our lives, gets us wrong...but then there are those we think ought to know us pretty well that get us wrong.

This is not even touching on the point that we get ourselves wrong many times. In times of great distress we can either surprise ourselves, dissapoint ourselves, or be predictable.

Heneni
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Well thats the thing..mostly we dont care if people who are not intricately involved in our lives, gets us wrong...but then there are those we think ought to know us pretty well that get us wrong.
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I know. Even after living for 22 years, my own mom is still very wrong about me in several areas. Worse yet, many of her interpretations of my that are wrong I don't even give her any reason to think so. Such as the time she thought I only ate natural/organic food.
 
Heneni

Heneni

Miss Independent
Shadow Wolf said:
I know. Even after living for 22 years, my own mom is still very wrong about me in several areas. Worse yet, many of her interpretations of my that are wrong I don't even give her any reason to think so. Such as the time she thought I only ate natural/organic food.
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Heh heh...

Maybe she was hinting..

But its so true isnt it...we want to be understood. Even if its just knowing that the other person knows you want to be understood.

If we are not understood it feels like we are invisible to those who misunderstand us. Like we are here, but until someone hits a chord with you, there is no connection.

You find it on this forum. People who dont know each other from anywhere click because somehow they can sense the other person resonates if you will on the same frequency as they are. Perhaps that is the key to finding someone that understands you. These people in our lives are rare, but they do come along every now and then.

Very often they are not those in our immediate family environment.
 
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Functionless

Nothing
Heneni said:
Do you sometimes feel that the 'you' that people see and the 'you' that you see is different?

How does that affect you? Does it frustrate you? Is there something to be learnt from it?

heneni
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I feel that the person I am and the people that people see is completely different, and it affects me negatively. Of course it is frustrating.

The important thing to learn from it is to not care what other people think. Pay attention, but don't take it personally. If they really cared about you, they would not say things to belittle you.
 
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S-word

Well-Known Member
Quote.......Heneni------------Who are you?

I am “Who I Am,’ who was in the beginning with God and was one with God. ‘Who I Am’ is joined to the beginning by an eternal genetic thread of life, for ‘Who I Am,’ who was in the beginning has never and will never experience death, but only change, and I don’t give one iota what people think of Who I Am, who is in the eternal process of change, for I am not ‘Who I Was’ nor ‘Who I Will Be,’ for ‘Who I Am’ is the name that my God gave to me.

And the spirit bears witness ‘I Am Who I Am’
I have no need of the witness of man
The spirit inside with who I am one
Cries out through his kingdom, “Behold him, my Son.”
"Here is the spirit in whom I am pleased
He drinks of my spirit—on my word does he feed
Here is the spirit of he who once died
And was poured out on those who believed they would rise
And here they now stand as one cob of corn
From the seed that I planted, they as he are reborn
And they do I place on the thrones I’ve prepared
At the head of the body of my son and my heir
For they judge nor condemn the body as one
But realise the spirit in man is my Son
Perfected by blood, now risen as He,"
Yes the voice of my Father cries out, “You are free;
A new creation that will live eternally."...........By S-word
 
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3.14

Well-Known Member
wel i am so many people im almost feeling schitzofrenic

there is the me for shopping for work for spare time for using public transportation for partys etc

i mean there is even a me for browsing this particular forum
 
Hema

Hema

Sweet n Spicy
I agree with "I am that I am." :)

Generally, I am introverted and only open up to those closest to me. I am shy and I think because of this, not everyone gets to see the real me. Yes it does frustrate me, especially when meeting new people because I am terrible at small talk. I can more open up when discussing something I am really interested in...or if I basically feel comfortable...with some people you get more friendly vibes than others.
 
Comet

Comet

Harvey Wallbanger
Heneni said:
Do you sometimes feel that the 'you' that people see and the 'you' that you see is different?
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All the time.....

How does that affect you? Does it frustrate you? Is there something to be learnt from it?
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I don't let it..... those I let in KNOW ME.... those that don't truly know me think of me in this way or that way. I feel I am better off having most of them think of me like this or that. Keeps my private life seperate from my personal life.

It affects me not, for I don't let it. What can be learned? Choose wisely who you let in to both worlds.....
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Comicaze247

Comicaze247

See the previous line
Nobody can ever truly understand another person. Hell, I barely understand myself, so how would I expect anyone else to?

The way I see it, people look at things through the lenses of their experiences, each experience possibly altering the clarity of the lens in some way. And as they're looking, they can only see the outside one angle at a time. It takes a lot of exploring with the person to even begin to see the real picture.
 
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capslockf9

Active Member
AS they see through lense of their experience so do we. Unless deep introspection is performed "man is sustained in the indifference of his ignorance"- Nietzsche. Unmeditated concepts the source of conflict out there and inside.
 
Luminous

Luminous

non-existential luminary
I am who i think i am to myself
I am who they think i am to them
I am who you think i am to you
 
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zenzero

zenzero

Its only a Label
Friend Luminous,

I am who i think i am to myself
I am who they think i am to them
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Both are different perceptions and so not *TRUTH* as truth is only *ONE*
Which is there when all perception ceases.
Love & rgds
 
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