The Aryan Nation... has ANYONE ever confronted a real member???

ness said:

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I would love to explain how we are all equal blah blah blah but it wouldnt work. They are set in their ways and stick to them. Closed minded ignorant and just plain rude when it comes to their beliefs and that in itself is enought knowledge for me to know I wouldnt mix well.

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All things are possible with God . I can do all things by Christ who gives me his strength.
Verily , verily I say unto you that if you shall say unto this mountain be thou removed and be thou cast into the sea and shall not doubt in thine heart but shall believe that those things which you say shall come to pass you shall have what you say. Mark 11:22-23.If you give up on them you might as well give up on the human race as a whole. We have the promises of God 7000 of them in the bible to take hold of and use in the earth and expect the power of God to fulfill whatso ever we ask. Therefore consider thy neighbor when you ask. If what you ask for will benifet you and all of mankind it should be easy to believe. If it is impossible gladly ask, for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the Kingdom. Now the Kingdom of Heaven is not in word but in power.

Its a shame when someone has to "determine " that you are not Jewish just to have a conversation with you.

( rolls eyes )

He would have talked with me even if I were Jewish, though he might not have been so hospitable. He related how he once got a black man to read some of the histories on his "reading list" and convinced him that he (the black) was, in fact, a member of an inferior race.

Seyorni said:

He related how he once got a black man to read some of the histories on his "reading list" and convinced him that he (the black) was, in fact, a member of an inferior race.

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You know this as a fact because he told you or the black man told you?

He told me. I can't swear this is true, but he appeared sincere. He was not bragging, just commenting on the authoritativeness of his historical readings.

Seyorni said:

He told me. I can't swear this is true, but he appeared sincere. He was not bragging, just commenting on the authoritativeness of his historical readings.

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Id still want to speak with the individual he claims he proved all of this too.

Point well taken, ness. I have no definitive evidence for or against his assertion.

I just wish that the Black man could have shown this man that he is not above the black man or any other man. that would have been a nice idea

Why should the "black man" have to do that?

Niether brains nor brawn makes you "superior". Maybe your ability to love, or to serve your fellow man, but even that is hollow compared to our real inner worth.

Why should the "black man" have to do that?


I never said he "had " to my point was that seeing as Seyorni's friend stated that he had convinced the black man that he was of an inferior race it would have been nice to have seen the reversal. In other words the black man changing a racist's point of view.

No one can change a racist's POV. It is a function of HATE and POWER and not based in reality at all! This kind of hate is pure evil.

I agree, NetDoc.

I also find it amusing that the majority of them weren't traditional aryans at all. Brown hair, brown eyes? Sorry, boys!

Sharp eyes on a sharp lady! Good call, Ceridwen! I hadn't even noticed.

Doc said:

...has ANYONE ever confronted a real member???

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Well, I guess it depends on what you mean by "confronted."

In my line of work, I meet people from every walk of life. Sometimes I find it very unfortunate that I need to remain professional.... say for instance the parent who routinely spikes the baby's milk with heroine to keep it from fussing and one day messes up and the kid OD's

I had a patient about 5 or 6 years ago who OD'd on antidepressants in a suicide attempt. Her boyfriend looked and acted the stereotype of the AN member you speak of.... the posters on his wall made this even more apparent... though in retrospect, maybe he was "just" the white suprematist type?

Thankfully, we had the PD backing us up because in every way this guy was scarey! His attitude, remarks and abusiveness were truly amazing.

Although I (unfortunately) had to maintain a professional demeanor, I really, really wondered how good it would feel to grab the little chain that went from his nose ring to his ear ring and give it a good yank

I doubt a member of this group is gonna whip out his aryan nations card and do a song and dance for you. I don't know much about them except they recruited a few KKK guys who thought the KKK was too soft on non whites and used a lot of the KKK model for business including the notions of

1) invisable empire
2) belief in christianty non denominational (aka non catholic)
3) meetings in secret
4) dislike for jewish religion (but much more so than the kkk).

they got Louis Beam from Texas to join...he was a kkk granddragon down here and they had a capital in idaho for a long time but that website says it is in florida. most are sworn to secrecy so i would imagine they wouldn't tell you unless there were particular circumstances that permitted it like lover, found out by accident, recruitment ect....most are on fbi watch lists for demostic terrorism though not much seems to be being done. i would be all in favor of the fbi just killing them off or arresting them (under federal law only not state), with no chance of parole. they have a contract out on dee morris who won many a legal battles with the kkk.

if you ever did find one you probably just found a crimminal who is either on an fbi watch list or will be very soon.

with the kkk many are not outlaws and can go through a lifetime while only committing vandalism as a crime. i have met quite a number of kkk's down here in texas but no aryan nations...i don't believe they have an office out this way which is why beam left when they recruited him.

In reality Aryan nations has little of the power it once had.
It lost all it`s land and capitol in a lawsuit a few years back.

The people are still dangerous but the org itself is weak compared to well..they`re all pretty much weak now that William Pierce died and the National Alliance splintered.

Thats a good thing I suppose.

Christian identists would be the greatest upcoming racist power but they`re too busy arguing about their twisted interpretations of Biblical scripture to be much of a force.

linwood said:

I don`t know what Hitler was thinking with the Blue eyes and Blonde hair.

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Check out some of the links on Wikipedia and I think that you will find that the concept predates Hilter . A German guy back in the late 1800s noticed that there appeared to be a connection between a language in India and some old European languages , so he figured that a group of people he call Aryans invaded both areas . That idea is debated now . Truth is , were may never have been a race of Aryans , the word is a rank , not a race . But then , who knows ?

Hitler seemed to like Nordic types. How he squared his own distinctly non-nordic look with his racist ideal is an interesting question.

Actually these people is sick. Fear is their disease and hate it's manifestation. It's scary also what these people can do, even overthrow the government! Timothy Mcveigh did a lot of harm, probably alone. Think what 100 of them can do! It's sad that people can be deceived into believing that the white race is by itself the masterpiece of Gods creation. The whites have done a lot of good and cool things, but also have their share of ugly wrongdoings.