Ayesha's age at marriage

john313 · Feb 27, 2005

http://www.irfi.org/articles/articles_151_200/ayesha_age_the_myth_of__a_prover.htm

I have found that in debating with christians/non muslims, they tend to say Muhammad(pbuh) was a child molester; like many of their arguments, we know this to be a lie. This is a link to a good site that you can give christians, or anyone who lies about the Prophet(pbuh). It exposes the false hadith that say she was a child when they were married.

wa salaam,

Aramaya

croak · Feb 28, 2005

they tend to say Muhammad(pbuh) was a child molester

That's true. But they should think about one thing: Why should a man in his 40s or 50s do that to a child? Aren't they old enough to not do those things? If the prophet (saas)was in his 20s or 30s, it would make more sense.

croak · Feb 28, 2005

Very interesting article. Think I'll bookmark it.

Natural Submission · Feb 28, 2005

Clearly anyone that says such a thing is only out to slander the Prophet(sal), logic and reason don't apply to such people.

Good site akh Aramaya, Shukran.

anders · Feb 28, 2005

Whatever it was, I'm not in a position to judge the customs and practices at that time.

As far as attested, nobody was hurt or offende or whatever at that time. I find it more difficult to defend the proposed slaughterings and promiscuities in the Old Testament.

Natural Submission · Feb 28, 2005

anders said:
Whatever it was, I'm not in a position to judge the customs and practices at that time.

As far as attested, nobody was hurt or offende or whatever at that time. I find it more difficult to defend the proposed slaughterings and promiscuities in the Old Testament.

Yes, and remember what the great Prophet Jeremiah said:

"Even the stork in the sky knows her appointed seasons, and the dove, the swift and the thrush observe the time of their migration. But my people do not know the requirements of YHWH. How can you say, 'We are wise, for we have the Torah of YHWH,' when actually the lying pen of the Scribes has handled it falsely? The wise will be put to shame; they will be dismayed and trapped. Since they have rejected the Word of YHWH, what kind of Wisdom do they have?" Yirmeyahu 8:7-9

גַּם חֲסִידָה בַשָּׁמַיִם, יָדְעָה מוֹעֲדֶיהָ, וְתֹר וְסִוס (וְסִי&#1505

וְעָגוּר, שָׁמְרוּ אֶת עֵת בֹּאָנָה; וְעַמִּי--לֹא יָדְעוּ, אֵת מִשְׁפַּט יְהוָה. אֵיכָה תֹאמְרוּ חֲכָמִים אֲנַחְנוּ, וְתוֹרַת יְהוָה אִתָּנוּ; אָכֵן הִנֵּה לַשֶּׁקֶר עָשָׂה, עֵט שֶׁקֶר סֹפְרִים. הֹבִשׁוּ חֲכָמִים, חַתּוּ וַיִּלָּכֵדוּ; הִנֵּה בִדְבַר יְהוָה מָאָסוּ, וְחָכְמַת מֶה לָהֶם

Many things in the Tanakh are nothing more than interpolations made by the lying pen of the scribes, like Prophet Lot having sex with his two daughters and Prophet Noah getting drunk and naked in front of his family. As well as the Prophet's Aaron and Solomon being idol worshippers etc. These are nothing more than lies and slander. Remember what the book of Revelation says:

"You shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall you diminish from it, that you may keep the Mitzvot (Commandments) of YHWH Elohekem (the LORD your God) which I command you."

לֹא תֹסִפוּ, עַל-הַדָּבָר אֲשֶׁר אָנֹכִי מְצַוֶּה אֶתְכֶם, וְלֹא תִגְרְעוּ, מִמֶּנּוּ--לִשְׁמֹר, אֶת-מִצְו‍ֹת יְהוָה אֱלֹהֵיכֶם, אֲשֶׁר אָנֹכִי, מְצַוֶּה אֶתְכֶם

The individuals responsible for this filth will surely be punished. Anything that ever happened in the lives of the Prophets and Messengers of YHWH/God/Allah, was and is pure, holy and righteous.

Zohaib · Mar 12, 2005

Most hadiths are riduculous in my opinion.

almifkhar · Mar 13, 2005

it is not uncommon for a 15 or 16 year old bride to marry a 30 40 year old man in the world outside of the u.s. infact it is common practice in tribal socities around the world. western socities seem to think that their way of life is the only way to go and everyone else is twisted of the mind, which is the road to intollerance and stupidity.

croak · Mar 16, 2005

I've read an article in which a 9 year old girl was pregnant. But that isn't a common thing.

Runt · Mar 16, 2005

I'm not sure how true this is, but one of my religious studies teachers explained to the class that the prophet seemed to be marrying women out of kindness; many of them were widows and would not have had a place in society unmarried, and so he married them to give them protection. My teacher also explained that studies show that he did not seem to be having sexual relations with most of these women... that the first wife he married seemed to be his only true lover.

I have not verified this myself however, so I could be wrong.

Perhaps it was similar with Ayesha, and therefore, even if she were a child, the situation would be more innocent?

croak · Mar 17, 2005

I'm not sure how true this is, but one of my religious studies teachers explained to the class that the prophet seemed to be marrying women out of kindness; many of them were widows and would not have had a place in society unmarried, and so he married them to give them protection. My teacher also explained that studies show that he did not seem to be having sexual relations with most of these women... that the first wife he married seemed to be his only true lover.

It's true. As an unmarried, unemployed woman, at a time when women had few rights, she would not have been able to survive without a family. She might have become a slave. So, being married would be better. And if one of the women didn't want to marry the Prophet (saas), they could choose not to.

Peace · Mar 18, 2005

Assalamu 'alaikum,

Moreover, at that time and in the desert environment they were living in, the girls reach the age of puberty at a very early age. So at the age of 9 the girl is considered already mature and adult. That's why you couldn't find in any book that people at time objected or criticized the Prophet peace be upon him for marrying the mother of believers, our mother Aicha, may Allah be pleased with her. This shows that it was something of the norm and culture of that time not only for Muslims but also other religions. The mother of believers Safiya (may Allah be pleased with her) who was a Jew, before converting to Islam and married to our Prophet peace be upon him, she married Jew at the age of 9 as well. See it's something that was very common at that period.

Peace

Green Man · Mar 21, 2005

Peace said:
Assalamu 'alaikum,

Moreover, at that time and in the desert environment they were living in, the girls reach the age of puberty at a very early age. So at the age of 9 the girl is considered already mature and adult. That's why you couldn't find in any book that people at time objected or criticized the Prophet peace be upon him for marrying the mother of believers, our mother Aicha, may Allah be pleased with her. This shows that it was something of the norm and culture of that time not only for Muslims but also other religions. The mother of believers Safiya (may Allah be pleased with her) who was a Jew, before converting to Islam and married to our Prophet peace be upon him, she married Jew at the age of 9 as well. See it's something that was very common at that period.

Peace

Why did Muhammad have more than four wives?

Peace · Mar 22, 2005

Green Man said:
Why did Muhammad have more than four wives?

The fact that Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him had more than 4 wives is motivated by purposes much more glorious and greater than what marriages normally aim at. His aim, peace be upon him, was to establish and maintain good relationship with different persons, tribes, religions... is what pushed him to do that and it was not of his own will but it was a command from God. His marriage to women from different tribes broke down the Arab tribes' enmity to Islam. Moreover, it was the Arab tradition to honour the in-law relations. it was, in fact, a means of consolidating relationships.

Peace

Green Man · Mar 25, 2005

Peace said:
The fact that Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him had more than 4 wives is motivated by purposes much more glorious and greater than what marriages normally aim at. His aim, peace be upon him, was to establish and maintain good relationship with different persons, tribes, religions... is what pushed him to do that and it was not of his own will but it was a command from God. His marriage to women from different tribes broke down the Arab tribes' enmity to Islam. Moreover, it was the Arab tradition to honour the in-law relations. it was, in fact, a means of consolidating relationships.

Peace

Where is this command written down?Did Muhammad operate under a different set of rules than everyone else?

croak · Mar 25, 2005

It's true, Runt. Sorry, I meant to post ages ago, but it didn't get through.

_salam_ · Mar 26, 2005

Green Man said:
Where is this command written down?Did Muhammad operate under a different set of rules than everyone else?

You should also keep in mind Muhammad (pbuh) had more than four wives before the command was sent down that limited it to four.

croak · Apr 1, 2005

You should also keep in mind Muhammad (pbuh) had more than four wives before the command was sent down that limited it to four.

Good point.

Ziroc · Apr 2, 2005

It really hurts me to see non-believers to say bad things about our Prophet Muhammad saw. Where the hell did they get that idea from.

croak · Apr 3, 2005

It really hurts me to see non-believers to say bad things about our Prophet Muhammad saw. Where the hell did they get that idea from.

Where did they get the idea of racism from? Where did they get the idea of jealousy and hatred from? Most likely from Shaitan. How long will it take before he stops laughing and ruing the lives of people?

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