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From the website of Gov. Palin's church

Reverend Rick

Frubal Whore
Premium Member
No wonder people are so confused. Some people don't want a Muslim, a Morman, a Black, a Woman, a Catholic, a Jew, or God forbid a GLBT to run for President. Don't they have a group or something? Remind me again which party the KKK belonged to?
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
That's you're right and I respect that. I only wonder: doesn't that put you in the same boat as those who wouldn't vote for a Mormon?


Easily distinguishable.

Group X is attacking Y and Y isn't voting for Group X.

The reason Y isn't voting for Group X is NOT because Group X is X, but because Group X is attacking Y.
 

Rolling_Stone

Well-Known Member
Easily distinguishable.

Group X is attacking Y and Y isn't voting for Group X.

The reason Y isn't voting for Group X is NOT because Group X is X, but because Group X is attacking Y.
The quote from the website was careful to distinguish between Mormons and Mormonism. I tend to judge people by how they behave, not by what they believe. Remember who in politics said, "I was brainwashed"?
 

silvermoon383

Well-Known Member
The quote from the website was careful to distinguish between Mormons and Mormonism. I tend to judge people by how they behave, not by what they believe. Remember who in politics said, "I was brainwashed"?
That's part of the problem: to us there is no distinction between Mormons and Mormonism. A faith that is as encompassing as ours makes it so that a Mormon becomes a living embodiment of Mormonism.

Take me for an example. Sure, I base my decisions based on a lot of factors, but part of the core of who I am is because of the Church. People who try to attack the Church are attacking a part of the core of by entire being. I can't separate Mormonism from me, the Mormon.

That's why attacks are so personal to us.
 

Rolling_Stone

Well-Known Member
That's part of the problem: to us there is no distinction between Mormons and Mormonism. A faith that is as encompassing as ours makes it so that a Mormon becomes a living embodiment of Mormonism.

Take me for an example. Sure, I base my decisions based on a lot of factors, but part of the core of who I am is because of the Church. People who try to attack the Church are attacking a part of the core of by entire being. I can't separate Mormonism from me, the Mormon.

That's why attacks are so personal to us.
Then what are you upset about? You just confirmed a lot of what the article said. (FYI: I was sealed in the L.A. Temple to my family)
 

Charity

Let's go racing boys !
In our Church there is never a discussion of any other denomination or does our Pastor ever tell anyone what Church to attend. He tells visitors they are welcome and to please come back if they wish. What would be worse than to go visit another church and hear the Pastor downing some other church? I would not go back....
Some people that attend a church do not agree with every stand that a church takes on different views so I think you have to give people the benefit of the doubt....As far as a politicial stance, our Pastor just says pray about it and follow your heart and your convictions...;)
 

imbobbbb

Member
Thanks, Jonny. You continue to do a good job of bringing the GOP's view of Mormonism into the light.
there are many in the gop who dont like mormans......there are many in the democrat party who dont like those who seriously practice 'any'faith.If you are going to base your vote on which political party has a large number of members who love the lds church...i think you will be staying home in november.I'll vote for those i think will do the' least harm' to the country and my family.I'll respect your right to do the same even if the opinions do not mesh.
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
there are many in the gop who dont like mormans......there are many in the democrat party who dont like those who seriously practice 'any'faith.

McCain has demonstrated intolerance towards Mormons. Obama has shown kindness.

If you are going to base your vote on which political party has a large number of members who love the lds church...i think you will be staying home in november.

I never made the claim that I would base my "vote on which political party has a large number of members who olve the lds church."

I'll vote for those i think will do the' least harm' to the country and my family.I'll respect your right to do the same even if the opinions do not mesh.

I'll vote for those I think will provide the most benefit to the country and my family. Sounds like you're playing not to lose where I'm playing to win. But really, I don't care what your opinions are or who you vote for.
 

imbobbbb

Member
well disneyman,obama didnt have any mormans running against him in the primaries so its easy to show kindness to 'the enemy of my enemy who is therefore my friend as long as its useful to me' tactic in politics......If you aren't interested in the opinions of others or who they vote for why do you make political posts in 'discussion forums'?If you only want to' preach to the choir' there are plenty of 'cheerleader'sites for both parties.If you think that obama is the best man for the job thats who you 'should' vote for and i said i would 'respect the opinions of those who don't mesh with mine ' so i don't see why you seem to be annoyed with my post as i wasn't trying to insult you,those who intend to vote as you,or your candidate.If it was your belief that i am 'underwhelmed' by 'my' candidate you would be correct,most presidential elections for me come down to the 'lesser of two evils'.If you are an 'obama true believer' then i am happy for that you have a choice on the ballot that you truly believe in,i wish that i did.I'm not a big fan of either party,more of a libertarian then anything else,but i do generally vote republican in 'national office' elections and there are a 'few' republicans i genuinely like.I generally don't involve myself with political discussion on 'religious forums' and its a position i think i will adhere to more strictly in the future.Have a nice day
 
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