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What's wrong with this picture?
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zenzero
Its only a Label
Friend FA,
What I see in this painting is a man kneeling down with folded hands looking at the sky. Could be a farmer who felt a few drops of rain on his palm and is looking at the sky to make sure those are rain water and rubbing his hands to feel the water if real or not.
Meaning, it is all imagination that most people are living in. ILLUSION
How can you say that it is Jesus praying?
The painting does not say so?
It is therefore necessary to silence / still the wandering mind to really see TRUTH.
Love & rgds
What I see in this painting is a man kneeling down with folded hands looking at the sky. Could be a farmer who felt a few drops of rain on his palm and is looking at the sky to make sure those are rain water and rubbing his hands to feel the water if real or not.
Meaning, it is all imagination that most people are living in. ILLUSION
How can you say that it is Jesus praying?
The painting does not say so?
It is therefore necessary to silence / still the wandering mind to really see TRUTH.
Love & rgds
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
Yes, it does.
What word would you suggest as as alternative?
We tend not to get too awfully hung up on the fact that the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are all Gods. People say that makes us polytheistic. I say, "So what?" Polytheism is nothing more than a label that human begins have devised. We see the Father, Son and Holy Ghost as three distinct beings who are "one" in every sense but the physical. We don't believe they are a single substance, but that their unity of will and purpose is perfect and absolute. They are united to such a degree that we as mortals can't fully appreciate. They are never at odds with one another, but always think, feel, and act as "one God." Because "God" is a title that is legitimately applied to all of them, and because they all share the qualities of deity, they are spoken of as "one God" even though they are three in number.
Popeyesays
Well-Known Member
Ice maybe H2O, but it forms crystals which neither liquid water nor water vapor does.
Not quite so clever as it is half-baked.
Regards,
Scott
Rolling_Stone
Well-Known Member
That's the point.
DallasApple
Depends Upon My Mood..
The concept of the Trinity as being a single God, or even the Trinity at all, isn't anywhere in the Gospels, at least not that I've read. Jesus, as depicted in them, is the physical manifestation of the Word of God, but not God Himself. So there's no problem with Jesus praying to God.
The only problem with the picture is that in it, Jesus is Caucasian.
From a Muslim's perspective, you could say that Jesus was the human manifestation of the Word, meant for illiterates(Jesus did hang out with the poor more than anyone else, after all), while the Qur'an is the manifestation of the Word in book format, meant for scholars and scribes.
I agree..Jesus didnt look like a white man with long blond curls..
Love
Dallas
DallasApple
Depends Upon My Mood..
Rolling_Stone
Well-Known Member
I'm with you on this. What's all the hang-up? One God and many gods isn't exactly a new idea. The author of the OP will insist on dubbing it "polytheistic" no matter what.
Ndoki53
New Member
The "concept of the holy trinity" is just that. It is a man-made concept not taught in the Bible. Jesus did not pray to himself when he was baptized and he did not resurrect himself. Jesus admitted that there were things he did not know, that only the father knew. Jesus died (God cannot die).
John 1:18 says no man has ever seen God. Yet, people have seen Jesus. 1Cor 8:6 tells us that there is one God, the Father and one Lord, Jesus Christ.
John 17:3 teaches that knowledge of two persons is required for eternal life (this is Jesus praying to his heavenly father):
"Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent."
I find that many people really go out of their way to push the unholy and satanic trinitarian poison to make Jesus God. Yet, they have forgotten the name of the one that sent him. How insulting!
The first thing Jesus told his followers to do in the Lords Prayer at Matthew 6:9, 10 was to make the NAME of the Father holy (sanctified).
It is sad that many have given prominence to Jesus (who was created Rev 3:14 and Col 1:15) rather than the one who created, the Father.
Trinitarians unwittingly further the work of Satan. Satan does not want Gods name advertised either.
John 1:18 says no man has ever seen God. Yet, people have seen Jesus. 1Cor 8:6 tells us that there is one God, the Father and one Lord, Jesus Christ.
John 17:3 teaches that knowledge of two persons is required for eternal life (this is Jesus praying to his heavenly father):
"Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent."
I find that many people really go out of their way to push the unholy and satanic trinitarian poison to make Jesus God. Yet, they have forgotten the name of the one that sent him. How insulting!
The first thing Jesus told his followers to do in the Lords Prayer at Matthew 6:9, 10 was to make the NAME of the Father holy (sanctified).
It is sad that many have given prominence to Jesus (who was created Rev 3:14 and Col 1:15) rather than the one who created, the Father.
Trinitarians unwittingly further the work of Satan. Satan does not want Gods name advertised either.
Rolling_Stone
Well-Known Member
Absolutely right, except they are hardly furthering "the work of Satan." The Trinity may be a man-made concept, but here's the thing: the people who conceived it were not idiots. Mind cannot hope to grasp the concept of an absolute infinity without first attempting to break its unity. For in the absence of all divergencies, mind has no basis upon which it can formulate understanding concepts. If God is conceived as truly infinite, the attempt at comprehension requires the segmentation of the I AM. There are different ways of doing this: Father-Son-Spirit is one; Shiva, Vishnu, and Brahma is another. The Trinity-concept makes sense to me, but Jesus as the Second Person of the Trinity doesn't fit well with my religious philosophy. But this is a personal interpretation of felt values.
It seems to me three is the minimum. Where there is only two, Yin and Yang for example, there is no coordinating principle.
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