rojse
RF Addict
The pain and suffering they cause their victims? The amount of victims from the sin? The amount of communal angst from the knowledge these sins occured? Any of those are more than sufficient to differentiate between what sins occur.
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How Can God's Love Be Unconditional?
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The pain and suffering they cause their victims? The amount of victims from the sin? The amount of communal angst from the knowledge these sins occured? Any of those are more than sufficient to differentiate between what sins occur.
Kcnorwood
Well-Known Member
Yes it is if you do not accept what he's offering then he's going to send you to hell for not choosing him. Like I've said before no human parent would send thier child away for choosing thier own path.
I'm going to ignore the latter part of the question, which is nothing more than literalized myth, and offer up a response: all the universe is One Bright Pearl. There is nothing that is not the pearl, including love and conditions, and including the question you hold about love and conditions.
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sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Especially if all paths ultimately lead to God...
Kcnorwood
Well-Known Member
IF is a big word but I doubt that they do just based on docterine. The Christian God has too many conditions & rules that say he's the only way.
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Please rephrase that. Christ's followers have too many conditions & rules that say he's the only way. Has nothing to do with what God says.
Kcnorwood
Well-Known Member
My point excatly for everything you deem right about your belifes others see it as wrong. I'm sure there are people who see your views about Christ wrong as well.
Yes, Heads, I win. Tails, you lose. But you still have a choice! Yeshua chose wisely. Adam did not.
It seems God wants the obedient children to share eternity with him. To live like the devil and expect to be rewarded for that behavior, is like, expecting Santa Claus. LOL
It seems God wants the obedient children to share eternity with him. To live like the devil and expect to be rewarded for that behavior, is like, expecting Santa Claus. LOL
darkendless
Guardian of Asgaard
Thats a big problem with Christianity, the control factor drives many people away because they feel being restricted by something they also have to have faith in to believe is just too much restriction.
No! Not a problem for the believer. The problem is for he who does not wish to be restricted. It is a "No Never Mind" for God and his people. God has what he wants and his people have what they want, that's a "win-win" situation any way you cut it. And you had what you thought was best at the time. It was your choice. Sad, but that's the way it goes.
In this life I feel for you.
darkendless
Guardian of Asgaard
Who says what you believe is right other than the faithful? I'd rather take my chances and live a fulfilling life than a restricted one. It's something we're never going to agree upon.
cardero
Citizen Mod
Obedience=condition
rojse
RF Addict
They are all measures to differentiate between sins, and try and demonstrate why some people might not deserve as much time in hell as others.
I hear you wanting the reward for a believer.
Obedience = reward
Disobedience = destruction
Free will = choice
Choose one
He who creates the world gets to set the rules.
Since you choose not to play, but continue to free-load on his kindness and expect to recieve the reward for playing a game you refuse to compete in. Go figure.
You seem to think that God should make you sinless, but yet you don't want to be sinless. Have it your way
If you succeed in convincing God he is guilty of conditional love, I'll see you in the Olam habah. LOL
Kcnorwood
Well-Known Member
Wandered Off
Sporadic Driveby Member
No idea about love, but indifference often seems unconditional.
stacey bo bacey
oh no you di'int
Uhhh, all of that sounds really scary. My life isn't a game and I don't expect anything in return for the love, kindness, generosity, & peace I make. I choose to practice and spread those virtues based on my belief that they are what's best for humanity. No supreme game or twisted rules.
But since I'm an atheist I guess all of that is worth nothing since I don't believe in, and therefore love, God. And of course I deserve nothing short of eternal damnation. Go figure.
Methinks it would be easier to convince God than you.