Forgive me if I disbelieve you. I don't think you're lying, I just think that you're overstating the case.
Perhaps. I meant to say every christian that I've gotten cornered in an argument. The argument is usually a last resort so to speak, and so dififcult to counter by the friends of mine that don't believe.
Okay, well perhaps you could be good enough to supply an actual example, taken from the Internet, say? Suffice to say, though, that only the most misinformed Christian would make this argument, and it's nothing against Christianity to have such an argument debunked.
First, might I ask, why is an argument that a theologion made on the radio not acceptable? In terms of what the religious believe, it is certainly more valid than the internet, which is filled with so much false claims that it's hard to judge what christians believe, never mind atheists. Too much propaganda.
However, let me say this. This particular argument
could be brought forward by any person, well-informed, or desperate. If you, or your religion, claims that god is inside the universe, then obviously the flaw does not apply to you so you needn't worry. I would be interested in learning why you think, or eve IF you think, god can not be at least observed through science. But obviously, if you claim that god is inside the universe, then the above flaw does not apply.
The topic of this thread, however, is the flaws found in the argument that may or may not be advanced by anyone on this planet. If you find yourself wanting to advance the argument, you must remember this thread, as you will have to defend yourself against the observed flaws in the argument.
But if you don't? Well, it would certainly be interesting to hear what you do claim.