Question for those who believe homosexuality is immoral.

Teaching a homosexual kid to "overcome" their homosexuality is no different than teaching a heterosexual kid to "overcome" their heterosexuality. You most likely will end up communicating to the kid that something very significant is wrong with them while doing nothing to change their sexual orientation.

Sunstone said:

Teaching a homosexual kid to "overcome" their homosexuality is no different than teaching a heterosexual kid to "overcome" their heterosexuality. You most likely will end up communicating to the kid that something very significant is wrong with them while doing nothing to change their sexual orientation.

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But hey, if you make them all insecure over their sexuality and perhaps even put them to the point of emotional distress, they won't even be in the mood to have sex.

Thus,

SUCCESS

standing_alone said:

But hey, if you make them all insecure over their sexuality and perhaps even put them to the point of emotional distress, they won't even be in the mood to have sex.

Thus,

SUCCESS

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That's right! Thanks! I'd completely forgotten about the healthy side of teaching someone they're a pervert.

madhatter85 said:

I have no problem Judging this because i know where i stand with the Lord.

The Powers of procreation are a blessing and sacred. and are not to be perverted.

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You are a talking chimpanzee, who are you to Judge in the name of God?
Nature has granted humans sex for more than just procreational purposes, I simply do not understand this concept of sex being 'dirty' or 'sinful' it absolutely puzzles me.

I theorise that people who vehemently label sex as sinful and judge others by their own peculiar standards are possibly suffering from sexual repression/insecurity complexes and perhaps require psychological help.

The notion sex is only for procreation does not seem to take into account the fact the clitoris seems to serve no other function than to create pleasure.

Sunstone said:

The notion sex is only for procreation does not seem to take into account the fact the clitoris seems to serve no other function than to create pleasure.

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you can't seem to grasp the concept that of course Sex is not merely for procreation. To us, it procreation is the main function of sex, and bringing husband and wife closer together is another function. And it is to be employed between only male and female as lawfully wedded husband and wife.

madhatter85 said:

you can't seem to grasp the concept that of course Sex is not merely for procreation. To us, it procreation is the main function of sex, and bringing husband and wife closer together is another function.

And it is to be employed between only male and female as lawfully wedded husband and wife.

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What about a hermaphrodite madhatter?

Who can they have sex with?

LOL Ridiculous.

madhatter85 said:

And it is to be employed between only male and female as lawfully wedded husband and wife.

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Is there anything in human nature that would lead you to believe that?

Tau said:

You are a talking chimpanzee, who are you to Judge in the name of God?
Nature has granted humans sex for more than just procreational purposes, I simply do not understand this concept of sex being 'dirty' or 'sinful' it absolutely puzzles me.

I theorise that people who vehemently label sex as sinful and judge others by their own peculiar standards are possibly suffering from sexual repression/insecurity complexes and perhaps require psychological help.

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lmao. i seriously laughed when i read this post.

Just because nature has granted us the option of killing others does not mean we should do it.

Did i label sex as sinful? no. Matter-in-fact it is far from sinful as long as it is done between 1 male and 1 female lawfully wedded as husband and wife.


There are alot of people posting in this thread that take sex for granted and believe it is okay to do whatever they want with it. This is erronius. As with anything....prudence, respect, and responsibility are key.


How about this? go ahead and make same-sex marriagle legal, and in that same fell swoop make prostitution, pedophilia, beastiality, and inbreeding legal, after all...... it's just sex! it's harmelss! everyone should be free to express thier sexual desires! pedophiles can't help it either, "They're born that way"

Weither or not homosexuality is a choice or "born that way" to us LDS it's a problem that some may need help to resolve.

It may be a natural defect due to imperfection of the human genome. just as a parasitic twin or a cleft pallette is a genetic defect. It's doesn't make it any more "normal", and we have a way to fix those genetic problems

madhatter85 said:

you can't seem to grasp the concept that of course Sex is not merely for procreation. To us, it procreation is the main function of sex, and bringing husband and wife closer together is another function. And it is to be employed between only male and female as lawfully wedded husband and wife.

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We all know about the link between sexual repression and sexual abuse.

We must be ever vigilant.

madhatter85 said:

lmao. i seriously laughed when i read this post.

Just because nature has granted us the option of killing others does not mean we should do it.

Did i label sex as sinful? no. Matter-in-fact it is far from sinful as long as it is done between 1 male and 1 female lawfully wedded as husband and wife.

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Not as much as I laugh at what goes on in your mind

I wasnt refering to just you....

Tau said:

Not as much as I laugh at what goes on in your mind

I wasnt refering to just you....

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So, why do you care so much about what goes on in my mind? why aren't you worryign about yourself? am i just that sexy?

madhatter85 said:

How about this? go ahead and make same-sex marriagle legal, and in that same fell swoop make prostitution, pedophilia, beastiality, and inbreeding legal, after all...... it's just sex! it's harmelss! everyone should be free to express thier sexual desires! pedophiles can't help it either, "They're born that way

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Disgusting, equating abusers of children and animals with homosexual people?
Prostitutes charge for sex, and so what?
Interbreeding is genetically unhealthy and not good for that reason.

I find it unbelieveable that there are such narrow minded people out there.

Tau said:

We all know about the link between sexual repression and sexual abuse.

We must be ever vigilant.

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Repression and teaching someone to have self-respect and to respect sex as sacred are two different things buddy.

Repression - "YOu can't have sex because sex is bad, and you can't touch yourself. BECAUSE I SAID SO!"

Learning respect, discipline and an understanding and appreciation for something that is sacred is much different.

madhatter85 said:

So, why do you care so much about what goes on in my mind? why aren't you worryign about yourself? am i just that sexy?

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I don't know if you are 'sexy', I have never met you.

I worry about you because people like you cause suffering, mostly in yourselves...

Are you gay btw?

I have had sex with men it's no big deal xxx

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Disgusting, equating abusers of children and animals with homosexual people?
Prostitutes charge for sex, and so what?
Interbreeding is genetically unhealthy and not good for that reason.

I find it unbelieveable that there are such narrow minded people out there.

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Homosexuality leads to an end in that persons bloodline. so better to end the human race rather than let someone express thier sexuality?

Oh, okay so to you pedophilia is wrong? what's wrong with it if the child wants it? who are you to tell them no? who are you to repress the pedophile who needs to satisfy his primal sexual desires?

do you see the point i am making? It's no different.... It's all sexual perversions and same gender attraction has merely gained a foothold as a minority.

matter-in-fact there are probably more pedophiles than gay people.

4% of the US population is Gay or Lesbian.

i'd be wiling to bet that there are just as many pedophiles

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I don't know if you are 'sexy', I have never met you.

I worry about you because people like you cause suffering, mostly in yourselves...

Are you gay btw?

I have had sex with men it's no big deal xxx

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Hetero, thanks though i'd like to stay out of other's sex lives =/

mball1297 said:

It's possible. The problem is when you keep claiming their homosexuality as a problem. It's hard for someone to feel loved for who they are when you want to change an inherent part of them, especially when they don't see that part as being bad. I think a lot of the depression and suicide comes from a frustration from so much time spent trying to get through to parents that they are fine with who they are, and there is no problem, and their parents continueing to claim that they love them and want to help them fix the problem.

It doesn't happen all the time, but there are more than enough examples of it to consider it a sizable risk.

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I can see what you're saying. I believe we teach our kids correct principles, and that they are loved no matter what. Then let them govern themselves. Truth is truth, regardless of the pain it causes. If exposure to truth leads to destructive possibilities, such as suicide, we'd do all we could to help. But we can't teach anything other than truth to our children. The truth I would teach to my child is that all blessings for the righteous are available to those with same-sex attraction. All blessings. They may not come in this life, but they will come. There is hope. God loves them. God loves all of us. He would not deny anyone anything for something they cannot help as long as they are doing their best. He has also promised us no trial larger than we can handle.

Of course your view of truth may be different than mine, but I don't think that is the point here. Parents have to teach their children according to their deepest, most heart-felt beliefs. And always love them.

madhatter85 said:

Hetero, thanks though i'd like to stay out of other's sex lives =/

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FOUL!

You support a ban of same sex marriage?
If so, you make yourself a liar with the above quoted statement.

madhatter85 said:

Oh, okay so to you pedophilia is wrong? what's wrong with it if the child wants it? who are you to tell them no? who are you to repress the pedophile who needs to satisfy his primal sexual desires?

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A very poor argument, you have no idea of the suffering abusers put children through obviously.
Pedophiles are predators by definition, gays are not, big difference.