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Why does God hate Homosexuals and why did he create them?
- Thread starter SaveMeJebus
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Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
1. That study deals with gay men only, not lesbians.
2. It applies to women who have two or more gay sons; rather rare.
3. It doesn't say anything like what you said. You may not have understood it.
But it is darned interesting, thank you.
I also think it's interesting how easily you condemn others to a life of celibacy, a life you have no desire to contemplate for yourself.
btw, did you know that the Bible does not prohibit lesbianism?
Also btw, how did Judas die?
uss_bigd
Well-Known Member
I am looking for an article that states the chromosome thingy, that was the closes i've found so far.
Interesting point... only the bible says something like " desire to Good and God will lead your way"
The state of being a lesbian? no. the bible does not prohibit one being in a state of being lesbian or gay.
I dont have the reply ready yet, i have heard that topic was discussed in our church before i got Baptized. I already asked some workers to help me out.
hope you can bear with me.
Mike182
Flaming Queer
that line says it all for me. thankfully, my Pagan Gods don't want me to fear them, they want me to love them. i don't bow to tyranny.
McBell
mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
So, where in post 65 did I claim that there is something other than male and female?
Stop putting words in my mouth.
It only makes you look desperate.
Funny, I could not find the term "screw up" anywhere in that linked page.
Perhaps you linked the wrong page?
Though it is much more likely that you took liberty with what was said and paraphrased it to better suit your needs?
You make that assumption all on your own.
Or perhaps you are merely parroting others.
Nothing.
If you cannot stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
I call it how I see it.
And from what I can see you are making assumptions about what the passage means in order to justify your God's beliefs.
Which is interesting in and of it self, because I am fairly certain you do not believe that God needs you to justify His beliefs.
So if you are not attempting to justify Gods beliefs, whose beliefs are you trying to justify?
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
Nor does it prohibit two women having sex.
Because obviously, when you just read it in ordinary English, it's clearly contradictory, and you need to go out there and get help to spin some kind of story under which it isn't. I can' wait to hear it.
Bishadi
Active Member
Hate is a man created term, sharing 'his' opinion.
Man evolved, and choice began to exist within the 'mind' of man. That is our disability when the self becomes the choice over nature.
onlywanttoknow
New Member
If both gays and straights would carefully read their bibles from Genesis to Revelation, they would discover that the true nature of Jehovah is homosexual. Hey, it's in the book!
Charity
Let's go racing boys !
You must be referring to some other book other than the Bible. :thud: Please explain, I have never read anything that would give one that impression. Enlighten me please?
rheff78
I'm your huckleberry.
uss_bigd
Well-Known Member
yeah, seems like your mind's made up?
Romans 1:26-27
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
Romans 1:32
Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
( what happens to those who doesn't practice them but approve them?)
uss_bigd
Well-Known Member
I say your desperate to prove me wrong. but you cant, coz i am not speaking for my self.
Romans 1-26:27
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
read it again, try harder, you can do it...
I am a cook! id rather take heat in here than in hell.
Seems like your mind is set, and your heart is cold... i sense you can't believe that the bible has so much wisdom in it that your inner balance is shaken and you see the wisdom that i read as a threat to that balance...
don't fight, the fear of God is the start to understanding!
McBell
mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
I say you are intentionally avoiding answering.
That in itself is a rather nifty neato indicator as to which one of us in "desperate."
I know not who you are speaking for, but let them know they needs correct you so that you stop making them look like an idiot.
Again, This makes no connection between "unnatural" and "homosexuality".Romans 1-26:27
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same waythe men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
read it again, try harder, you can do it...
Perhaps you should try without your rose coloured glasses.
Any answer to this would break forum rules.....
How about you stop dictating to me my beliefs.Seems like your mind is set, and your heart is cold... i sense you can't believe that the bible has so much wisdom in it that your inner balance is shaken and you see the wisdom that i read as a threat to that balance...
Your ability to strawman is impressive, but not convincing.
Fear tactics won't work with me.
Especially from someone as bad at it as you.
uss_bigd
Well-Known Member
I do wish my Christian brothers and sisters would stop making Rom.1:18-32 apply to us today. It is clearly a reference to straight pagans worshipping their god's and godesses. Aphrodite and all the sub deities, is what the Apostle is referring to. How these pagans back then 'worshipped' their deity was a whole lot different than how we Christians worship. Look at the text. These people were heterosexual who thought that it pleased their deity to go against their true sexual attraction. Why even the Corinthian's worship of these deities was the reason the Apostle Paul had to prohibit the men from wearing their hair long (or wearing of wigs) and the women to cover their bald head (Adonis worship) or shorn hair (Aphrodite prostitute) in order to keep the Churchs' appearance above board to all the outsiders.
Romans 1:18-32 (King James Version)
18For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
Romans 1:18-32 (King James Version)
18For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
uss_bigd
Well-Known Member
Verse 23 is similar to catholic images in their churches " image of corruptible man'
verse 29-31 applies today, you can see them in government, religions, compnaies everyday life.
what made you think it no longer applies?
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
Are you sure? My bible says that he purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out. (Acts 1:18)