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Is God evil because He causes death?

sandy whitelinger

Veteran Member
But death is punishment for Adams trangsression in the Garden of Eden. Because of Adams action God punishes all of us with death. It doesn't sound very fair to me.
Your hang-up seems to be that death is a bad thing. It seems to me that the destination after death is paramount and in that respect the Bible has this to say:
"[21] For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
[22] For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive." I Corinthians 15 KJV
 

sandy whitelinger

Veteran Member
There's so many arguments against God because He cause people to be killed in the Flood, or because I commanded nations to be destroyed. Or they argue God is evil because He allows innocent children to die or people to die 'before there time.' So I'm going to take this argument to is logical conclusion.

Is God evil because He allows TRILLIONS of people to die from old age? Surely and all knowing, all loving God, would not allow trillions of people to die from problems with their bodies.

I could never believe in such a God that would allow death to come to EVERY elderly person in the worlds history. Such a God could NOT be a loving God!

:sarcastic
Another problem, which crops up often, is that one cannot limit God to just one of His attributes. In the case of death as a punishment for sin it satisfies God's attribute of being just. That God gave man 200 years to repent before the flood shows His long-suffering. That He allows anyone who believes in the name of His only begotten son into heaven shows His grace and mercy. God's attributes are many.
 

sandy whitelinger

Veteran Member
However, logically, those killed must have included many people who weren't capable of any transgression, such as newborn babies or the mentally infirm; my problem with the flood story isn't the idea of people dying, it's the idea of punishing people when they haven't done anything wrong.
Death is not the punishment for transgressions it is a consequence. Punishment comes from rejecting Christ and being sent to the Lake of Fire.
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
Your hang-up seems to be that death is a bad thing. It seems to me that the destination after death is paramount and in that respect the Bible has this to say:
"[21] For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
[22] For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive." I Corinthians 15 KJV
I have that same hang-up. Dying once just wrecks my whole day.
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
Another problem, which crops up often, is that one cannot limit God to just one of His attributes. In the case of death as a punishment for sin it satisfies God's attribute of being just. That God gave man 200 years to repent before the flood shows His long-suffering. That He allows anyone who believes in the name of His only begotten son into heaven shows His grace and mercy. God's attributes are many.
It's just for soldiers to stab little babies to death? Lay out for me how that's just.
 

BFD_Zayl

Well-Known Member
no one dies before there time unless their life is purposefully taken by a human. and what is it about death that people find so inherently evil?
 

Somkid

Well-Known Member
Hummm, I don't know what to say. I don't think death has anything to do with a god it is the natural course of life all that is borne dies that is a natural law. If things did not die life wouldn't be so precious.
 

Ashley-Yin

Im a happy little Lesbian
as far as im concerned it is foolish to believe god is all loving. according to some people he aparently created the world so who is he to blame lesser beings ie satan or humans for bad things that happen. its quite pefetic really.

in actuality god didn't create the world at all he just thinks he did and its because of gods arrogance that people 'use' him as an excuse for their different prejudices ie treating gays, blacks, women etc. as second class people.
 
people 'use' him as an excuse for their different prejudices ie treating gays, blacks, women etc. as second class people

This is the reason why God came here, so people would never be able to say that about Him and use the mystery of God to wield power for themselves. Jesus loves and He warns. That's what the entire OT law was about. Patience, mercy and warning. Jesus said love and flee and the Jews chose to hate and fight.
 

wednesday

Jesus
This is the reason why God came here, so people would never be able to say that about Him and use the mystery of God to wield power for themselves. Jesus loves and He warns. That's what the entire OT law was about. Patience, mercy and warning. Jesus said love and flee and the Jews chose to hate and fight.

Religious folk claim god is a victim, but without him many wars could have been stopped. God is a ticket to war no matter which language you speak or by which name you call him. He will continue to come between us because each man claims that god is a different being. The sooner everyone gets over their enormous ego's and realises no one cares whos right or wrong, the sooner we can start living our lives again.
 

Atmanlives

New Member
God offers eternal happiness to those who can find him.

The kingdom of the father is spread out upon the earth and men do not see iot.

Our greatest quest should be to find heaven before we die.
 
Religious folk claim god is a victim, but without him many wars could have been stopped. God is a ticket to war no matter which language you speak or by which name you call him. He will continue to come between us because each man claims that god is a different being. The sooner everyone gets over their enormous ego's and realises no one cares whos right or wrong, the sooner we can start living our lives again.

That's why God separated light from dark, so the people who do care about each other and the widows, the fatherless, and the innocent would have a judge to hear them.

Those who don't care about there fellow man will not be in the kingdom of God. There will be no men of war in New Jerusalem.
 

wednesday

Jesus
That's why God separated light from dark, so the people who do care about each other and the widows, the fatherless, and the innocent would have a judge to hear them.

Those who don't care about there fellow man will not be in the kingdom of God. There will be no men of war in New Jerusalem.

Each to their own i don't want to slam your beliefs but im pretty sure no one cares about anyone but themselves and those near to them these days. Sad yes but such is life, we are forced to put ourselves before others to survive, its just the way it is and putting god before your own well-being may be moral but it defies common sense.
 

sandy whitelinger

Veteran Member
as far as im concerned it is foolish to believe god is all loving. according to some people he aparently created the world so who is he to blame lesser beings ie satan or humans for bad things that happen. its quite pefetic really.

in actuality god didn't create the world at all he just thinks he did and its because of gods arrogance that people 'use' him as an excuse for their different prejudices ie treating gays, blacks, women etc. as second class people.
Real deep thought here. Is the maker of a baseball bat at fault if they continue to make bats after finding out someone used one to beat someone to death?
 
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