R U going to Heaven?

script refs:

Heaven
Gen. 1:1 (Moses 2:1) In the beginning God created the h.
Gen. 1:8 (Moses 2:8) God called the firmament H.
Gen. 11:4 tower, whose top may reach unto h.
Gen. 28:17 house of God, and this is the gate of h.
Ex. 16:4 (John 6:31) I will rain bread from h.
Deut. 10:14 h. of h. is the Lord's
Deut. 30:4 driven out unto the outmost parts of h.
Deut. 30:12 (Rom. 10:6) Who shall go up for us to h.
2 Kgs. 1:10 (Luke 9:54) let fire come down from h.
2 Kgs. 2:11 Elijah went up by a whirlwind into h.
Job 16:19 my witness is in h.
Job 38:33 Knowest thou the ordinances of h.
Ps. 8:3 When I consider thy h., the work of thy fingers
Ps. 19:1 h. declare the glory of God
Ps. 33:6 By the word of the Lord were the h. made
Ps. 89:6 who in the h. can be compared unto the Lord
Ps. 102:25 (Heb. 1:10) h. are the work of thy hands
Ps. 104:2 (Isa. 40:22) who stretchest out the h. like a curtain
Ps. 105:40 satisfied them with the bread of h.
Ps. 146:6 (Acts 4:24) Which made h., and earth
Isa. 14:12 How art thou fallen from h., O Lucifer
Isa. 34:4 h. shall be rolled together as a scroll
Isa. 51:6 Lift your eyes to the h. ... for the h. shall vanish
Isa. 55:9 as the h. are higher than the earth
Isa. 64:1 Oh that thou wouldest rend the h.
Isa. 65:17 (66:22; 2 Pet. 3:13; Rev. 21:1) I create new h. and a new earth
Isa. 66:1 (Acts 7:49) h. is my throne
Ezek. 8:3 spirit lifted me up between the earth and the h.
Dan. 2:28 God in h. that revealeth secrets
Joel 2:30 I will shew wonders in the h.
Mal. 3:10 (3 Ne. 24:10) if I will not open you the windows of h.
Matt. 3:16 (Mark 1:10; Luke 3:21) h. were opened
Matt. 5:18 (Luke 16:17) Till h. and earth pass
Matt. 6:9 (Luke 11:2; 3 Ne. 13:9) Our Father which art in h.
Matt. 16:1 (Mark 8:11; Luke 11:16) shew them a sign from h.
Matt. 19:21 (Mark 10:21; Luke 18:22) have treasure in h.
Matt. 24:30 (JS-M 1:36) sign of the Son of man in h.
Matt. 24:35 (Mark 13:31; Luke 21:33; JS-M 1:35) H. and earth shall pass
Matt. 28:18 All power is given unto me in h.
Mark 16:19 (Luke 24:51) he was received up into h.
Luke 4:25 when the h. was shut up three years
Luke 15:7 joy shall be in h. over one sinner
John 1:51 ye shall see h. open
Acts 1:11 come in like manner as ye have seen him go into h.
Acts 3:21 Whom the h. must receive until the times of restitution
Acts 9:3 (22:6; 26:13) round about him a light from h.
Acts 10:11 saw h. opened, and a certain vessel descending
2 Cor. 12:2 caught up to the third h.
Col. 1:16 were all things created, that are in h.
Col. 4:1 knowing that ye also have a Master in h.
1 Thes. 4:16 Lord himself shall descend from h.
Heb. 7:26 made higher than the h.
Heb. 10:34 in h. a better and an enduring substance
Heb. 12:23 church of the firstborn ... written in h.
James 5:12 swear not, neither by h.
1 Pet. 3:22 is gone into h., and is on the right hand
2 Pet. 3:10 h. shall pass away with a great noise
1 Jn. 5:7 three that bear record in h.
Rev. 6:14 h. departed as a scroll when it is rolled
Rev. 8:1 (D&C 88:95) there was silence in h.
Rev. 12:1 appeared a great wonder in h.
Rev. 12:8 neither was their place found any more in h.
Rev. 14:6 (D&C 88:105; 128:20) another angel fly in the midst of h.

Kingdom of God, in Heaven
Ps. 10:16 Lord is King for ever and ever
Ps. 11:4 Lord's throne is in heaven
Ps. 24:8 Who is this King of glory? The Lord strong and mighty
Ps. 29:10 Lord sitteth King for ever
Ps. 45:6 (Heb. 1:8) Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever
Ps. 47:8 God sitteth upon the throne of his holiness
Ps. 89:18 Holy One of Israel is our king
Ps. 95:3 Lord is a great God, and a great King
Isa. 6:1 (2 Ne. 16:1) Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up
Isa. 44:6 Lord the King of Israel
Isa. 66:1 (Acts 7:49) heaven is my throne
Jer. 10:10 living God, and an everlasting king
Matt. 3:2 (4:17) Repent ye: for the k. of heaven is at hand
Matt. 5:3 (3 Ne. 12:3) poor in spirit: for theirs is the k. of heaven
Matt. 16:28 see the Son of man coming in his k.
Matt. 25:34 inherit the k. prepared for you
Matt. 26:29 (Mark 14:25; Luke 22:18) when I drink it new with you in my Father's k.
Mark 1:15 k. of God is at hand
Luke 6:20 be ye poor: for yours is the k. of God
Luke 13:28 ye shall see ... all the prophets, in the k. of God
Luke 22:29 I appoint unto you a k.
Luke 23:42 remember me when thou comest into thy k.
1 Cor. 6:9 (Gal. 5:21) unrighteous shall not inherit the k. of God
1 Cor. 15:50 flesh and blood cannot inherit the k. of God
Col. 1:13 translated us into the k. of his dear Son
James 2:5 heirs of the k. which he hath promised to them that love him

whereismynotecard said:

I will not be in heaven when I die.

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Is this a religious belief, or are you afraid of something from your past?

And if men come unto me I will show unto them their weakness. I give unto men weakness that they may be humble; and my grace is sufficient for all men that humble themselves before me; for if they humble themselves before me, and have faith in me, then will I make weak things become strong unto them.

Charity said:

I want to say this to a post that was made earlier in this thread. Loving each other, and just doing good deeds, is not enough to get us to Heaven.

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Jesus appears to disagree with you.

God is love.

Whoever loves IS of God.

Adding additional rules is not necessary.

When I die I won't be anywhere. My belief is that when I die everything about me will cease to exist.

Hello scotty...can I call you scotty???

It looks like you have taken offense to my inability to put on a false sense of insecurity so that you would feel more enlightenend.

The first thing religious people do is put on an heir of supperiority when it comes to the things of God.

I have no religion, and i will stick up for no church. I am the church the last time i read the bible.

So, there could be three billion people that think different to me, wouldnt make the slightest amount of difference to me.

As long as you believe what you teach scott, thats all that matters. Since if you believe it, you will live your truth.

Many talk the talk but dont walk the walk. People preach that God is love, but they wont tell the truth even if it hurst. The truth will set you free but first it will p*ss you off.

Im dissatisfied with the wishy washy pathetic and frankly warped image that religion has created for God.

You know who god will hold accountable for all the nonsense that churches preach around the world? The people that listen to it.

As far as heaven is concerned, the marriage of the century is still in the pipeline, moving into a new home called heaven, meeting moses, david, samson, adam and eve....seeing jesus, wizzing between one place in the universe to another.

Dont you just love not being religious. It makes life so much more fun.

Love
Heneni

Panda said:

When I die I won't be anywhere. My belief is that when I die everything about me will cease to exist.

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Yoda, Obi wan, type of thing? your body just - "poof" disappears? All memories anyone else has of you "poof" are gone? We are all part of something eternal. The effects of what we do now will forever be around...

If you do not believe we have a “spirit”, what is the difference between a body that is alive and one that has recently deceased? What energy or force makes something alive?

Heneni said:

Hello scotty...can I call you scotty???

It looks like you have taken offense to my inability to put on a false sense of insecurity so that you would feel more enlightenend.

The first thing religious people do is put on an heir of supperiority when it comes to the things of God.

I have no religion, and i will stick up for no church. I am the church the last time i read the bible.

So, there could be three billion people that think different to me, wouldnt make the slightest amount of difference to me.

As long as you believe what you teach scott, thats all that matters. Since if you believe it, you will live your truth.

Many talk the talk but dont walk the walk. People preach that God is love, but they wont tell the truth even if it hurst. The truth will set you free but first it will p*ss you off.

Im dissatisfied with the wishy washy pathetic and frankly warped image that religion has created for God.

You know who god will hold accountable for all the nonsense that churches preach around the world? The people that listen to it.

As far as heaven is concerned, the marriage of the century is still in the pipeline, moving into a new home called heaven, meeting moses, david, samson, adam and eve....seeing jesus, wizzing between one place in the universe to another.

Dont you just love not being religious. It makes life so much more fun.

Love
Heneni

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don't blame the church - religion, like life, is what you make of it. What to one person is a boring sermon to another is better than a rollercoaster ride. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder a church is not such a bad place to be if you recognize others there are all at a different place in their life and don't expect too much from them... or see too little in them... Everyone has a bit of majesty in them if you know how to find it...

I was born of star dust as are all beings and I will return to star dust as will all beings.

Heneni said:

Hello scotty...can I call you scotty???

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Sure.

It looks like you have taken offense to my inability to put on a false sense of insecurity so that you would feel more enlightenend.

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Wow... that's a mouthful...... no offense taken.

The first thing religious people do is put on an heir of supperiority when it comes to the things of God.

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For instance claiming a unique knowledge that is far beyond mere mortals and telling people that they are not going to heaven.... that kind of "supperiority"? :cover:

I have no religion, and i will stick up for no church. I am the church the last time i read the bible.

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Why do you read the Bible? Why limit yourself to a set canon that was established by a religion... why not read all the books of the period.... why are you shackled to orthodoxy when it comes to the Bible but nothing else? Seems a little fake to me.

Im dissatisfied with the wishy washy pathetic and frankly warped image that religion has created for God.

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I'm looking forward to reading your solutions to this problem... I'm sure you're not just going to preach and whine about the errors of "religion" and not give us the gift of your wisdom.

Dont you just love not being religious. It makes life so much more fun.

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Being "religious" means having a relationship with God (you can look up the root of the word if dictionaries are not part of the "conspiracy") so I would say that you appear to be quite religious.

Looking forward to hearing your answers.

Somkid said:

I was born of star dust

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Was that Ziggy Stardust? You might have a legitimate shot at a paternity suit.

Scuba Pete said:

Jesus appears to disagree with you.

God is love.

Whoever loves IS of God.

Adding additional rules is not necessary.

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It's not my rules, it, Gods Better read it for yourself. I don't expect anyone to take my word..Just being a good moral person is not enough..If you don't accept Jesus......You will not enter in to Heaven........Sorry to disappoint you. But that is how it is......

Charity said:

It's not my rules, it, Gods Better read it for yourself. I don't expect anyone to take my word..Just being a good moral person is not enough..If you don't accept Jesus......You will not enter in to Heaven........Sorry to disappoint you. But that is how it is......

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So babies, the mentally challenged, those who never heard the gospel.... they all GO TO HELL?

Charity said:

It's not my rules, it, Gods Better read it for yourself. I don't expect anyone to take my word..Just being a good moral person is not enough..If you don't accept Jesus......You will not enter in to Heaven........Sorry to disappoint you. But that is how it is......

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You have read too much INTO the scriptures. Reading them from your perspective, rather than from the Spirit's perspective.

Consider this:

Matthew 25:37 "Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?' 40 "The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.' NIV

There is no mention of what you consider to be paramount.

Now consider this:

Matthew 12:7 If you had known what these words mean, 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice,' you would not have condemned the innocent. NIV


Actions speak louder than words BECAUSE they come out of your heart.

Love is the real answer.

idea said:

Just cruious - looking at your life, combined with your beliefs, do you think you will go to heaven when you die? If so, what degree of heaven do you see yourself in? By degree I mean - star, moon, or sun type glories:

1 Cor 15:
41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead.

Just curious...

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I am already well past the sun, hence my religion is titled, "Beyond the Light". Frankly, I have my sights set much higher than "Heaven" as it is generally conceived. On this note, ScubaPete is dead on. Some of us already exist in Heaven (on Earth); as it should be.

Maybe you aren't reading enough into the scriptures.....There are allowances for people who are unable to understand the Bible and for children until they reach the age of accountability.....Are you going to Just take the scriptures that says God is love just throw away the parts with the conditions.....There are conditions to God's word......If we endure to the end, If we accept Jesus,We can have eternal life, but there are conditions we must meet. We must be doers of the word, not just hearers.

If we didn't need to accept Jesus what was the point of God sending him to dwell on this earth and then die for our sins? Do you think we are saved just to sit down and do nothing? What does it mean to be Christ like? Do you think Jesus just sat there. No he was out teaching and doing the will of His father....

Charity said:

Maybe you aren't reading enough into the scriptures.....There are allowances for people who are unable to understand the Bible and for children until they reach the age of accountability.....

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Ummmm I'm not the one who proclaimed with authority: "If you don't accept Jesus......You will not enter in to Heaven........Sorry to disappoint you. But that is how it is...... "

These "allowances" for people who are unable to understand the Bible... can you give me Chapter/Verse on that please.

Charity said:

If we didn't need to accept Jesus what was the point of God sending him to dwell on this earth and then die for our sins?

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Who DIDN'T Jesus die for then? Are you telling me that there are exclusions?

Scuba Pete said:

Who DIDN'T Jesus die for then? Are you telling me that there are exclusions?

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Hehe....I think you're missing the point.... it's not the saving work of Christ that gets a person their "ticket to heaven"..... it is a persons own actions in their "acceptance" of Jesus that apparently saves.

We've got it wrong all this time Pete.

Ah... foiled by a works salvation again! I guess they did away with all of that Grace stuff: too complicated.

Scuba Pete said:

You have read too much INTO the scriptures. Reading them from your perspective, rather than from the Spirit's perspective.

Consider this:

Matthew 25:37 "Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?' 40 "The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.' NIV

There is no mention of what you consider to be paramount.

Now consider this:

Matthew 12:7 If you had known what these words mean, 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice,' you would not have condemned the innocent. NIV


Actions speak louder than words BECAUSE they come out of your heart.

Love is the real answer.

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Eph 2:8-9
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God;

Not of works, lest any man should boast.