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Are The Trials Of Job Ahead Of Us?

Darkness

Psychoanalyst/Marxist
Newcastle said:
The list is on going Darkness, hope you don't worship them, for they are many..

I am an Atheist. I worship nothing. I do admire the mythological beings, Lucifer and Satan, who rebel against Yahweh/God.
 

newcastle

Member
I am an Atheist. I worship nothing. I do admire the mythological beings, Lucifer and Satan, who rebel against Yahweh/God.

These are not mythological beings, biblical God and Satan are the same being, the bible is satanic
with the exceptions of certain verses taken from the Book of Enoch layered with lies to mislead
and corrupt us from being One with GOD..

And your no atheist for you worship creation, with every breath you take, you worship creation..
 

truth_seeker

New Member
If you don't know what your doing wrong how can you correct it??
If GOD doesn't tell you, how will you know??
How will you change??

Job's sins did not cause this suffering. His friends (if you can call them that) tried to convince Job that his problems were results of his wrong doing, but they were wrong. Job makes this clear and later so does God when he rebukes Job's friends.
 
This complete confusion!

Faithfulness is keeping the letter of the Law, this is hard enough as it is, once obtained the trials are over.
In Job he had obtained this faithfulness, the biblical god punished him for it, killed his wife, killed his kids,
sure he was blessed again in the end, with the memories of the trials of faithfulness, sure!!

Why did biblical god not test Adam in such way, or Enoch, or Noah, or anyone else?

Confusion!!

because it is all rubbish!!!!!
 

Azakel

Liebe ist für alle da
In Judaism the book of Levititicus, speaks of Azazel, as the scapegoat, now also
of man’s sins, where a goat was to be sent out to him in the wilderness.
This is the basis for the practice still conducted today in Judaism as the ‘Day of
Atonement’ or ‘Yom Kippur’….now minus the goat.

1En,10- 6Again the Lord said to Raphael, Bind Azazel hand and foot; cast him
into darkness; and opening the desert which is in Dudael, cast him in there.
7Throw upon him hurled and pointed stones, covering him with darkness;
8There shall he remain for ever; cover his face, that he may not see the light.
9And in the great day of judgment let him be cast into the fire.

12All the earth has been corrupted by the effects of the teaching of Azazel.
To him therefore ascribe the whole crime.

Why would Holy GOD now ascribe a holiday to this Fallen Angel to his earthly children for worship?
Azazel's teachings were the cause of the first destruction, the Deluge and todays corruptions as well.

Satan also is a Fallen Angel..

And read the book of Job you'll find Satan there, just learn before you try to teach!!!

Same, learn a bit more about Judaism before you go with stuff to.
from wiki:
Azazel (Sayan) (‘ăzaz’ēl) is believed to mean "God has been strong" or "God strengthens" from Hebrew ‘ăzaz, third person singular past participal form of ‘āzaz, "to be strong", and ’ēl, "God".[1] Another theory uses ‘āzaz in its metaphorical sense of "impudent" (i.e., strengthened against someone) to mean "impudent to God". Azazel is also known by the variant spellings "Azael" "Aziel" and "Asiel."
In the Hebrew Bible and Rabbinical literature

The first appearance of the name "Azazel" is in Leviticus 16:8, when God orders the high priest Aaron to "place lots upon the 2 goats, one marked for the Lord and the other marked for Azazel" on the Jewish Day of Atonement. The goat designated by lot for the Lord is to be used as a sin offering, while the goat designated for Azazel "shall be left standing alive before the Lord, to make expiation with it and to send it off to the wilderness to Azazel" (Lev. 16:10). Aaron was to "lay both his hands upon the head of the live goat and confess over it all the iniquities and transgressions of the Israelites, whatever their sins, putting them on the head of the goat; and it shall be sent off to the wilderness by someone designated for the task. Thus the goat shall carry on it all their iniquities to an inaccessible region; and the goat shall be set free in the wilderness" (Lev. 16:21-22). Leviticus also says that "He who set the goat for Azazel free shall wash his clothes and bathe his body in water; after that he may reenter the camp" (16:26). This is the origin of the term scape-goat (see below).
According to some scholars, the name Azazel may be derived from azaz meaning strong, rugged, or grandeur/majesty, and el meaning of God or strong, giving either strong one of God or referring to the rugged and rough mountain cliff from which the goat was cast down .[1] Some propose that Azazel may have been derived from the Canaanite god 'Asiz, who caused the sun to burn strongly.
The Talmud (Yoma 67b) identifies Azazel as the name of a cliff over which the goat was driven in the atonement ritual for Yom Kippur. This version was cited by the Biblical commentator Rashi, who took "azazel" to mean "rough ground" or "cliff," and this meaning was accepted by many Jewish commentators who wished to avoid contamination of the Torah by traces of polytheism or belief in demons.(wow seem to me that right here it's saying that the Jews don't believe in demons and to say so would be contamination to there holy book....kind of like what Christianity has done to it for the most part). Thus Ibn Ezra took "Azazel" to refer to "a mountain near Sinai," while G. R. Disker took the "rough ground" to be Dudael, a rocky place where the fallen angel Azazel is imprisoned" (I Enoch 10:4-6). It has also been identified with Hudedun, "a rocky terrace in the wilderness, ten miles from Jerusalem." (The Torah, A Modern Commentary, p 1735, n. 4)
Azazel was translated as "scapegoat" in the King James Version of the Bible (1611).(oh and this right here says it all, out of all translations of the bible I find the KJV to be the worst, it's so of from a good translation- not that translating hebrew is easy but).King James' translators derived the word scapegoat from William Tyndale's translation of the Bible about 1530, which split azazel into the component parts ez ozel: literally, the "goat that departs," hence "the goat that escapes," or, for short, "(e)scape goat."[2] Since this goat, with the sins of the people placed on it, is then sent over a cliff or driven into the wilderness to perish (perhaps at the hands of the desert demon Azazel), the word "scapegoat" has come to mean a person, often innocent, who is blamed or punished for the sins, crimes or sufferings of others.
For more information see Azazel in Rabbinic Literature.

Oh and here's a site for you done by a Jew that tells you how Satan is with in the Jews faith: Does Judaism Believe in Satan?
 

Darkness

Psychoanalyst/Marxist
Newcastle said:
These are not mythological beings, biblical God and Satan are the same being, the bible is satanic with the exceptions of certain verses taken from the Book of Enoch layered with lies to mislead and corrupt us from being One with GOD..

If you wish to believe that, I suppose it is better than believing the Old Testament is Holy Writ.

Newcastle said:
And your no atheist for you worship creation, with every breath you take, you worship creation..

Semantics.
 
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