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I'm curious, Why Satanism is so FEARED?

linwood

Well-Known Member
bodeanengrl said:
I don't think that it's that they are "scared" of satanism. Ijust think it takes some of us aback a bit to actually come face to face with a satanist. We have the protection of God so there is nothing to fear.

So because you have faith in God you never feel fear?

Fear is not a part of your emotional range?
 

Fluffy

A fool
Maybe if Satanism were taught in schools instead of just Christianity it would be less feared. Of course Im talking about European schools where we dont have that screwy seperation of church and state law. Everyone is always afraid of the unknown. Just like a kid being afraid of the dark. Whats even worse is that there are no incredibly prominent religious voices in Satanism (in comparison to some other religions) and so they are judged through the voices of non Satanists. Like certain metal songs for example.
 

djFiddles

Member
No Christian have grounds to be afraid of Satan. He has no power, nor do his followers, over Christians (namely the power of Christ in them). Satan is not equal with God, not even close, and therefore cannot come close to having the same influence, power, etc. As stated previously, there is a lot of ignorace going on with the general populace and Satanism. But it really is no different than any other religion that worships created beings rather than the self-sustaining Creator.

Admitedly, there is fear in the hearts of most people when Satan is mentioned, but wrongly so. I do not fear Satan in the usual sense of fear. I actually have a profound respect for him as a powerful adversary, and a great deal of pity for him knowing that his ways will find his end in destruction and eternal banishment. I do have fear; it is a part of my "emotional range." What I am saying here, as I think others are, is that our nature as humans is to fear the unkown and what is more powerful than us, but God gives us a much higher degree of power and strength than the fear that is settling in our hearts. I know for myself, when I get afraid (of anything; Satan, money trouble, future, etc), I pray, think of God, sing or read my Bible or something and He is faithful to pull my out of that fear.
 

linwood

Well-Known Member
No Christian have grounds to be afraid of Satan.
Ok I can see many of the Christians here are missing the point.

Satanism really has nothing to do with Satan, not in the sense you think it does.

This religion was an act of genius, it works even once it`s been outed!!

I am impressed.
 
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djFiddles

Member
Some do miss the point, of course, as with any topic. However, there is nothing missed when I said that Satanists worship the created instead of the Creator...of that there is no mistake, even if you don't believe in an all powerful Creator because nobody I know believes Satan created anything (except some say he created sin). Whether it literally is Satan as taught in the Bible, or if it meant to describes oneself and the term Satanism is used only as a shock method to get people to jump. There is still no "power" is Satanists. Do Satanists claim any extra power? Or is it more just pure anarchy becuase there is no "extra" or "higher" power?
 

djFiddles

Member
Sorry, after I posted I thought of something else. The reason most people jump at the religion of Satanism or the mention of the person Satan is because of what it originally meant. I understand that many (maybe even most) Satanists don't even believe in the Satan as taught in the Bible. But that is where Satan got his start...when people hear Satan, they think of the Satan of the Bible. And people knew that in the beginning of the naming of the religion because they are attaching themselves to the name of Satan for shock sake. Even if they do not "serve" Satan, they are attached to the commonly perceived notion of Satan by the name. Satanists or anyone else have no reason to be "upset" about the attachment, it's what was asked for...even if unintentionally.
 
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Majikthise

Guest
My wife was discussing religion with some coworkers one day and my atheism came up. One woman replied" Your husband is a satan worshipper?".My wife had to explain that ,being an atheist, I did not beleive in satan.She still didn't get it.So I can see why the pagans deny being satanists.It is nothing about the satanists themselves.They are just trying to defend themselves against ignorance.:)
 
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Majikthise

Guest
djFiddles said:
Satanists or anyone else have no reason to be "upset" about the attachment, it's what was asked for...even if unintentionally.
So, it's ok to say "Your Irish ,so you must love potatos.". It borders on bigotry.:tsk:
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
I must admit that I did not understand the whole "Satanism" thing until just last night. It turns out my brother says he is and so I asked him what it is all about. As I read above...it truly does have nothing really to do with Lucifer in the sense that most Christians take it. You can really equivolate Lucifer with Hades in a way. Just because they rule the Underworld or "Hell" does not make them automatically evil. Besides, the term "Satanist" was used much like the term "Pagan" by the Roman Catholic Church. To denote someone who does not believe or worship the Christian God. It took on its undertones since then. Much like the term "witchcraft" it is feared without real knowledge as to why.
 

may

Well-Known Member
maike said:
Hasn't more death &suffering been inflicted on humanity over the last 2000 years in the name of God rather than Satan ????

. Satan is really the unseen ruler of all the nations of the world! The Bible plainly says: "The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one." (1 John 5:19)

 

may

Well-Known Member
Maize said:
What does that have to do with Satanism the religion, may?
sorry getting carried away there:) just made me think about all of the wars in the name of religion it certainly serves satans purpose, after all ,satan means opposer, and god is love so that is the opposite of what god wants
Clearly, God does not put his blessing on modern carnal warfare between humans. Being peaceable, true Christians advocate the peace that will be established worldwide under God’s Kingdom.sorry getting carried away again:) going now

 

Master Vigil

Well-Known Member
May, that still has nothing to do with satanism the religion. There have been no wars in the name of satanism. Many in the name of christianity, I don't get your point? Don't people realize that satanism is just humanism with a fun name probably used to scare christians?
 

may

Well-Known Member
Master Vigil said:
May, that still has nothing to do with satanism the religion. There have been no wars in the name of satanism. Many in the name of christianity, I don't get your point? Don't people realize that satanism is just humanism with a fun name probably used to scare christians?
yes you are right i am on the wrong thread:)
 

djFiddles

Member
Master Vigil said:
Don't people realize that satanism is just humanism with a fun name probably used to scare christians?
Several people have made this claim. I believe this emphasizes my point about the fact that people should not be upset about the attachment Satanism typically has with the more common understood concept of Satan (that of a real being, fallen angel, as described in the Bible). The title was adopted as a scare tactic (particularly against Christians as stated by many Satanists), the only logical conclusion is that people either desire the association or at least concider the result (scare tactic) worth the association. What is left still not understand by me is; why are Satanists upest about the success they find in their nominal scare tactic?

I really don't see that as anywhere near bigotry, just the way it is. If I am wrong or misinformed please let me know how and why.
 

martha

Active Member
Ok here goes......

If I were interested in becoming a Satinist, what words would the Satinist use to show me just what I could expect to believe in upon becoming a Satinist? In other words just how do you live your daily lives? What prayers do you say? What credo do you personally live by. If Satinism is just a joke upon the thiest, what is the goal of Satinism. Remember that I am a Catholic Christian. Although I believe in God, I don't believe that the bible is the infallible Word of God. The reason for that is Man's interpretation over time has diluted the actual intent of God. It is just like when you tell a story to one person and they tell it to another, by about the eighth person the story has changed somewhat. I also don't believe that the whole of the bible should be taken literally. We must factor in poetic lisence, the ideas of the times, and the vernacular of the day. I believe that God is all powerful, due to my own experience. I believe that God 's essence is total, unconditional love. I believe that God created life and the universe. All people are His children. These are some of my beliefs, although some Catholics may vehemently disagree with me on some points., but I know what I know from experience. I also do not believe that I am dilusional or nuts, in reviewing my personal experiences.

So if you were to try to explain your understanding of Satan, what is it that you would say to indoctrinate me. I mean how would you explain to me how Satan or the belief in Satan could enhance my existance? What do you believe that Satan is? Why do you choose the name of Satan to represent you? Has Satinism enhanced your life? Are you happy? Do you love life? Are you kind and understanding to your brothers and sisters in this life who don't hold your same belief? These are some of the points I am curious about. I am not looking for the shock value, nor the BS. Just tell me what drew you to Satanism, and how does the belief in it satisfy your soul? Don't give me the rhetoric, just the facts of your daily worship of this so called satan. Thank you for induldging my curiosity.

P.S. I know that ther are many branches of christianity, diverse thoughts. Are there diverse beliefs within Satanism?

Joyfully in Jesus,
Martha
 

Fluffy

A fool
Your questions require very detailed answers and I think I would not do them justice though I will endeavour to try.

To answer your last question, because I think it is important to understand this before any conversation on the topic can be embarked upon, Satanist beliefs are much more diverse than Christianity (although since there is no measure of diversity then this is really just my opinion). Now it would be difficult to answer from a diverse viewpoint so I will try and give responses to your questions which I feel reflect the beliefs held by the majority of Satanists and NOT what I have grudgingly come to call Luciferians.

What credo do you personally live by.
The questions before this were rather broad and I did not think I could make a generalisation for a Satanist trend in any of them so I will start with this one.

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=583 - I really feel that these beliefs form the core of any Satanists beliefs... though maybe some might be excluded.

I mean how would you explain to me how Satan or the belief in Satan could enhance my existance?
Satanism is about the most honest religion when it comes to human nature. Perhaps it is important to acknowledge your inherent nature (which Christians do call sinful I know) and not deny it.

To illistrate the difference consider the following scenario: you are very bad in a certain subject at school, what do you do?
1) You could work on your weaknesses and put more effort into the subject, resulting in a better grade.
2) You could drop the subject and take up another which utilises your strengths allowing you to achieve your full potential.

I feel that the latter view better encompasses the difference between Satanism and other religions, such as Christianity. Satanists do not try and distance themselves from their own nature by calling human nature sinful but rather embrace it whilst focussing on the positive.

Are you kind and understanding to your brothers and sisters in this life who don't hold your same belief?
The only time a Satanist would not be understanding of another's beliefs would be if they felt that their beliefs were founded on stupidity. Additionally, Satanists might not be very understanding towards somebody who believed Satanists are evil but this is perhaps understandable.

From the content of your post, I get the feeling that you have a mixed understanding of the differences between Luciferism and Satanism... the shock value and the BS are normally associated with the former not the latter as is it being a joke on theists.
 

martha

Active Member
Gee thanks Fluffy,

I understand a wee bit better now. I didn't realize there were Luciferians. I must say that as with any belief there are those you use it wisely and those who don't. Here in America there are many issues that divide christianity .One example is some believe that God doesn't want abortions and who in God's name, would blow up abortion clinics, and there are others who don't believe in abortion but who stand in front of clinics and pray or protest. Then there are those who don't believe in abortion , but just speak to God in prayer in private. This is what I meant by diverse beliefs within christianity. Some christians are more zelous than others. I imagine not all Satanists hold their beliefs in exactly the same way.
There is still much that I have yet to learn and understand in this world, thank you all for your guidance.

Forgive me if I sounded a little aggressive or perhaps flip about the topic. It is just that I really want to know. I don't want vague answers I want the real deal. I guess what I want, is to know the answers to all of the questions in the world and I want to know them now !! if you please.:) Whew!, glad I got that off my chest. Have pity on this dizzy old bat. I think I will leave you all alone for awhile.

Martha
 
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