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How long ago was Adam created?

Francine

Well-Known Member
Destruction of Jerusalem (587 BC, established by archaelogy and Jewish/secular records) until present time (2008 AD)=2,594 years. There was no year zero.

Reigns of the kings of Judah from the fall of Jerusalem back to
King Joash:

11 Zedekiah (2 Kings 24:18)
0.25 Jehoiachin (2 Kings 24:8)
11 Jehoiakim (2 Kings 23:36)
0.25 Jehoahaz (2 Kings 23:31)
31 Josiah (2 Kings 22:1)
2 Amon (2 Kings 21:19)
55 Manasseh (2 Kings 21:1)
29 Hezekiah (2 Kings 18:2)
16 Ahaz (2 Kings 16:2)
16 Jotham (2 Kings 15:33)
52 Azariah (2 Kings 15:2)
29 Amaziah (2 Kings 14:2)
40 Joash (2 Kings 12:2)
7 Athaliah (2 Kings 11:3)
1 Ahaziah (2 Kings 8:25)
8 Jehoram (2 Kings 8:16)
-7 years (Jehoram became King of Judah in the fifth year of the
twelve-year reign of King Joram of Israel)
----
Subtotal: 301.5 years

Reigns of the Kings of Israel from Joram to Solomon:

12 Joram (2 Kings 3:1)
2 Ahaziah (1 Kings 22:52)
22 Ahab (1 Kings 16:29)
12 Omri (1 Kings 16:23)
4 Tibni (1 Kings 16:22)
2 Elah (1 Kings 16:8)
24 Baasha (1 Kings 15:33)
2 Nadab (1 Kings 15:25)
22 Jeroboam (1 Kings 14:20)

Division of the Kingdom into the House of Israel, ruled by King
Jeroboam, and the House of Judah, ruled by Rehoboam (1 Kings
12:20)

40 Solomon (1 Kings 11:42)

-4 years (the beginning of the construction of the temple was in
Solomon's fourth year of power)
-----
Subtotal: 138 years

480 years from the Exodus to the beginning of the construction of the temple (1 Kings 6:1)

430 years from the migration of Israel to the Exodus (Exo. 12:40)

130 age of Jacob when he arrived in Egypt (Gen. 47:9)

60 Isaac to Jacob (Gen. 25:26)
100 Abraham to Isaac (Gen. 21:5)
70 Terah to Abraham (Gen. 11:26)
29 Nahor to Terah (Gen. 11:24)
30 Serug to Nahor (Gen. 11:22)
32 Reu to Serug (Gen. 11:20)
30 Peleg to Reu (Gen. 11:18)
34 Eber to Peleg (Gen. 11:16)
30 Shelah to Eber (Gen. 11:14)
35 Arpaschad to Shelah (Gen. 11:12)
100 Shem to Arpaschad (Gen. 11:10)
500 Noah to Shem (Gen. 5:32)
182 Lamech to Noah (Gen. 5:28)
187 Methuselah to Lamech (Gen. 5:25)
65 Enoch to Methuselah (Gen. 5:21)
162 Jared to Enoch (Gen. 5:18)
65 Mahalalel to Jared (Gen. 5:15)
70 Kenan to Mahalalel (Gen. 5:12)
90 Enosh to Kenan (Gen. 5:9)
105 Seth to Enosh (Gen. 5:6)
130 Adam to Seth (Gen. 5:3)
-----
Subtotal: 2,106 years

Grand total:

2,584+301.5+138+480+430+130+2,106=

6,179.5 years
 

nutshell

Well-Known Member
I'm not good at math, so I'll take your word for it. :) Can you please share how this data point works in the evolution vs. creation debate?
 

Francine

Well-Known Member
I'm not good at math, so I'll take your word for it. :) Can you please share how this data point works in the evolution vs. creation debate?

Due to certain unfortunate events today I am not interacting with members of the LDS Church. However, to avoid having this topic flagged for the moderators for removal, I will indicate its relevance to the Evolution vs. Creation debate.

Creationists by and large accept an inerrant view of scripture, but some of them revise the 6,000 year old figure for the age of the earth in the face of hard evidence given by dendrochronology and C-14 dating that the Earth is at least 9,900 years old. My friend Teresita created this timeline for her website in order to hold those YEC's feet to the fire. This is exactly how old the earth must be if Scripture is interpreted literally.
 

nutshell

Well-Known Member
Due to certain unfortunate events today I am not interacting with members of the LDS Church. However, to avoid having this topic flagged for the moderators for removal, I will indicate its relevance to the Evolution vs. Creation debate.

Creationists by and large accept an inerrant view of scripture, but some of them revise the 6,000 year old figure for the age of the earth in the face of hard evidence given by dendrochronology and C-14 dating that the Earth is at least 9,900 years old. My friend Teresita created this timeline for her website in order to hold those YEC's feet to the fire. This is exactly how old the earth must be if Scripture is interpreted literally.

That's true. And that's one reason why I am not a literalist.
 

Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
That's true. And that's one reason why I am not a literalist.
You and I have talked about this before. I think we have a pretty similar understanding of how Adam fit into the picture. As I recall, you just stated it better than I.
 

nutshell

Well-Known Member
You and I have talked about this before. I think we have a pretty similar understanding of how Adam fit into the picture. As I recall, you just stated it better than I.

Never! Your experience surely made you superior in stating our shared belief.
 

Sola'lor

LDSUJC
I don't know when Adam was created. but it could have been millions of years ago for all I know. But I believe thet when Adam left the Garden was about 4,000 B.C aprox. 6,000 years ago.
 

Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
I don't know when Adam was created. but it could have been millions of years ago for all I know. But I believe thet when Adam left the Garden was about 4,000 B.C aprox. 6,000 years ago.
That's a new perspective! I hadn't thought of that.
 

Captain Civic

version 2.0
I don't know when Adam was created. but it could have been millions of years ago for all I know. But I believe thet when Adam left the Garden was about 4,000 B.C aprox. 6,000 years ago.

Very true. It just talks about the fall in the Bible, not the time between the fall and creation.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The Adam and Eve story is an allegory. You might as well ask when Mother Goose was created.
 

Sola'lor

LDSUJC
Neither had I, but then again there is no evidence suggesting it.

Actually if you go with my interpretation of the book of revelation there is. I'm assuming you mean biblical evidence. The seven seals that are opened. Each Seal is one thousand years. The first one is is the first thousand years since Adam. The fourth is 1,000 BC toto about 1AD. The fifth seal is 1AD to about 1000 AD. The sixth seal is approximatly 1000 AD to 2000AD. Although we are still in the sixth seal. The seventh will be the thousand years the Christ reigns personally upon the earth Approximatly 2000 (I say approximatly because I'm sure we still have a few years ago before christ comes) to 3000 AD.

You can read more about is in Doctrine and Covenants section 72 I think. Or maybe it's 77, it's one of the 70's.
 

almifkhar

Active Member
francine

my dear, you must go back and rethink your numbers. please let me explain. i am saddly aware that i am going to speak of things on here that are new terroritory but i asure you it is well worth looking in to.

to the ancients, time was a huge thing. there are 3 basic ways of mesureing time. we have real time (the way we tell time on a daily basis), sacred time (presession of the exoquonixes), and galatic time ( which is the creme de la creme of time to man. it messures the time it takes us to circle the galatic core of our galaxy) , etc. we will be dealing with sacred time here.

sacred time is how prophecy is foretold for the good or bad. it shapes humanity whether we realize it or not.

if you really look at the sacred books (the bible will be used for this issue) we find things we never really paid attention to, however, when you actually look at things in the book and do your homework, you find very interesting things.

from adam to joseph (not mary's husband) the bible actally tells us the age they died. between joseph and moses we find 30 generations between them. here is what we find out when we actally do the math.

from adam to moses, we find that 17,000 years passes. (this number is rounded down, for my notes with the actual number is burried somewhere in my house) side note- the 30 year generations i guessed the dudes to have died at age 100 for by this time that was the avrage life span.

moses lived in the age of taurus which is 6,000 years ago. the clue to this is the golden calf story. most believe that moses was angered because the people were worshiping a past age (this would place moses in the age of aries). i dissagree because if feel that they were worshiping the right age (taurus/golden calf) however he was angered because the people worshiped a graven image as god which is forbidden.

jesus would have been born at the beginning of the age of pisces for the symbol of christanity is also the fish.

adam as far as my findings show point to him hitting the scene durring the age of capricorn or aquarius. i lean more toward aquarius. this means that 26,000 years has almost passed between us and adam. this is huge for it means that adam was the beginning and we are nearing the end of what is called a great year. it of course means more than that, however i am still trying to understand more about it.

folks forget that man was not the first creation, for the various races of angels came long before us, and as far as evolution goes, folks also forget that there are still the various dimentions of space/time to consider. what i mean to say here is that evloution may not be just a physical thing. another thing to keep in mind as well is that the ancients speak of the races of man, meaning the ones who came before us. this could be angels, then again this could be physical beings who somehow didn't messure up somehow and were weeded out?
 

sandy whitelinger

Veteran Member
francine

my dear, you must go back and rethink your numbers. please let me explain. i am saddly aware that i am going to speak of things on here that are new terroritory but i asure you it is well worth looking in to.

to the ancients, time was a huge thing. there are 3 basic ways of mesureing time. we have real time (the way we tell time on a daily basis), sacred time (presession of the exoquonixes), and galatic time ( which is the creme de la creme of time to man. it messures the time it takes us to circle the galatic core of our galaxy) , etc. we will be dealing with sacred time here.

sacred time is how prophecy is foretold for the good or bad. it shapes humanity whether we realize it or not.

if you really look at the sacred books (the bible will be used for this issue) we find things we never really paid attention to, however, when you actually look at things in the book and do your homework, you find very interesting things.

from adam to joseph (not mary's husband) the bible actally tells us the age they died. between joseph and moses we find 30 generations between them. here is what we find out when we actally do the math.

from adam to moses, we find that 17,000 years passes. (this number is rounded down, for my notes with the actual number is burried somewhere in my house) side note- the 30 year generations i guessed the dudes to have died at age 100 for by this time that was the avrage life span.

moses lived in the age of taurus which is 6,000 years ago. the clue to this is the golden calf story. most believe that moses was angered because the people were worshiping a past age (this would place moses in the age of aries). i dissagree because if feel that they were worshiping the right age (taurus/golden calf) however he was angered because the people worshiped a graven image as god which is forbidden.

jesus would have been born at the beginning of the age of pisces for the symbol of christanity is also the fish.

adam as far as my findings show point to him hitting the scene durring the age of capricorn or aquarius. i lean more toward aquarius. this means that 26,000 years has almost passed between us and adam. this is huge for it means that adam was the beginning and we are nearing the end of what is called a great year. it of course means more than that, however i am still trying to understand more about it.

folks forget that man was not the first creation, for the various races of angels came long before us, and as far as evolution goes, folks also forget that there are still the various dimentions of space/time to consider. what i mean to say here is that evloution may not be just a physical thing. another thing to keep in mind as well is that the ancients speak of the races of man, meaning the ones who came before us. this could be angels, then again this could be physical beings who somehow didn't messure up somehow and were weeded out?
I'm sure that all makes sense to you but since I'm off my meds perhaps you could explain, in our language, how Adam to Moses is 17,000 years.
 
Due to certain unfortunate events today I am not interacting with members of the LDS Church. However, to avoid having this topic flagged for the moderators for removal, I will indicate its relevance to the Evolution vs. Creation debate.

Creationists by and large accept an inerrant view of scripture, but some of them revise the 6,000 year old figure for the age of the earth in the face of hard evidence given by dendrochronology and C-14 dating that the Earth is at least 9,900 years old. My friend Teresita created this timeline for her website in order to hold those YEC's feet to the fire. This is exactly how old the earth must be if Scripture is interpreted literally.

Her math looks pretty good.

I think it is safe to say that if one were to take a literalist view of the history of the bible, one would arrive inexorably at the fact that Adam died roughly 5,000 years ago - perhaps hard to swallow.

However, as you alluded to in your title… as it says in Genesis, Adam lived 960 years and died. Do you think it is possible that the age recorded when Adam died is how long it had been since he was made mortal? In other words, as he was immortal, he was not aging.

I know of no reason to think this is the case, but is there any reason to think it is not?
 
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