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Why Are Christians Slaughtered Around The World

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
I dunno how creditable this article is, but it says 250 million in 2007. What is that divided by 365??? :p i suck at math....


http://http://www.christianpost.com/article/20070102/24735.htm

I don't really like that article, but I can't find any statistics at all on any religious persecution. Oh well, I will leave this one to the smarter people... climb up my tree to my perch and just watch the debate :D


EDIT: Whoops. I don't think it says how much of the persecution ends with death. Oh well... like I said, I can't find any statistics on the deaths specifically. Now, back up to my perch, tootle-loo...

Tee hee!! LOL...

1,000 Christians a day "killed"(slaughtered)...Would be 365,000 people a year who died in the name of Christ...

Sorry...I dont think so...

Blessings

Dlallas
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
P.S if that were actually happening??? I dont think it would be an "obscure" article on the net....

Blessings

Dallas
 
Why is there such an attack on christians worldwide?, I just heard a report which I hear regularly of Christians being murdered and attacked, this one particular was some radical hindu mobs burning down 15 christian churches ,it seems the threat of christmas decorations have outraged these hindu people ???????

WHat happend to the million who were killed in the Goa Inqusition? What happend to us when the Brits came over? What about the Amritsar Massacre? NOO. When a christian gets a splinter its in the bloody news.

These Hindus have repeatedly, throught history, have had their nation attacked and drained, if that were you, you would be MAD. I am not justifying this, but we dont understand them. If Hindus put up Diwali decorations during Christmas time, there would be blood.

You need to stop being paranoid.
 

avarose

New Member
Christians are not the only ones getting slaughtered in the world. It's happening everywhere and its only getting worse!
 

Vasilisa Jade

Formerly Saint Tigeress
**and I echo**

As long as humans exist there will always be a minimum of one persecuting another for some reason. Christians have persecuted and been persecuted. Jews have persecuted and been persecuted. Muslims have persecuted and been persecuted, and the list goes on and on. Discrimination still exists today between Christians and Pagans, among others. They sometimes feel they must practice in secret and keep their beliefs to themselves. I have not heard of any off hand, but I am sure there have been accounts where Pagans have felt unsafe practicing otherwise. Every faith has bad people in it that hide behind the doctrine and twist it to fit their own agenda.

Okay... this time I'm for real not leaving my perch.:rolleyes:
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Christians are not the only ones getting slaughtered in the world. It's happening everywhere and its only getting worse!

I agree. Although I'm not sure it's getting worse as a proportion of the whole population.
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
O.k...

Here is what I found out....

Around 56 million people die every year world wide any cause...Basically 8 per thousand in a world population of around 6.6 billion...

Are 365,00 of the 56 million dying for the Christian faith ever year???

Possibly...

I dont know...

All I know is 56 million people die every year...In total...

Blessings

Dallas
 

Azakel

Liebe ist für alle da
O.k...

Here is what I found out....

Around 56 million people die every year world wide any cause...Basically 8 per thousand in a world population of around 6.6 billion...

Are 365,00 of the 56 million dying for the Christian faith ever year???

Possibly...

I dont know...

All I know is 56 million people die every year...In total...

Blessings

Dallas

If that many Christian where being kill every year for as long as the OP think they have been(which I'm guess is since Christianity has been around) then there would be no more Christian, they would have all been kill by now. I doubt it, you will all was have people that is trying to make them and there Religion look like the victim.
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
If that many Christian where being kill every year for as long as the OP think they have been(which I'm guess is since Christianity has been around) then there would be no more Christian, they would have all been kill by now. I doubt it, you will all was have people that is trying to make them and there Religion look like the victim.

Azakel,

I am not trying to make anyone one look like a victim...

56 MILLION PEOPLE die a year...Thats what alarms me...Christian..Athiest..Hindu,Islam....Agnositic...WHAT EVER!!!

Some of these deaths are preventable..IMHO...

Blessings

Dallas
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
And P.S Azakel,

The deaths I quoted were WORL WIDE ...Not just a religion...ALL people....PEOPLE who die not Christians that die...

Never mind...

Blessings

Dallas
 

Azakel

Liebe ist für alle da
Azakel,

I am not trying to make anyone one look like a victim...

56 MILLION PEOPLE die a year...Thats what alarms me...Christian..Athiest..Hindu,Islam....Agnositic...WHAT EVER!!!

Some of these deaths are preventable..IMHO...

Blessings

Dallas

I wasn't trying to say you where, sorry if it sounded like that.

And P.S Azakel,

The deaths I quoted were WORL WIDE ...Not just a religion...ALL people....PEOPLE who die not Christians that die...

Never mind...

Blessings

Dallas

Ok, I was confused.
 

!Fluffy!

Lacking Common Sense
"How many Christians are killed for their faith every year?

The persecution facing Christians is the largest "human rights" violation issue in today's world.
According to the World Evangelical Alliance, over 200 million Christians in at least 60 countries are denied fundamental human rights solely because of their faith. David B. Barrett, Todd M. Johnson, and Peter F. Crossing in their "Missiometrics 2007" report in the International Bulletin of Missionary Research (Vol. 31, No. 1: 32) estimate that approximately 173,000 Christians will have been martyred from mid-2006 to mid-2007. This represents an increase of 1.2% over last year and compares to 160,000 martyrs in mid-2000 and 34,400 at the beginning of the 20th century. If current trends continue, Barrett, Johnson and Crossing estimate that by 2025, an average of 210,000 Christians will be martyred annually."

The Voice of the Martyrs Canada



Looks like that would be around 474 per day for the prior year.
 

!Fluffy!

Lacking Common Sense
Why don't we hear more about the plight of persecuted and martyred Christians?

(there were about 10 reasons listed on the website, here is one)

Lack of relevant, up-to-date information and only a few good sources of information on the plight of the persecuted church. The deafening silence of the secular media on the plight of persecuted church has contributed to limiting critical discussion of this issue to the few organizations (like The Voice of the Martyrs) who have focused specifically on it.

(from the VoM website)
 

Mr. Peanut

Active Member
Some scripture on this:

Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you. Mathew 5:10-12

And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven. But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake. And it shall turn to you for a testimony. Luke 21:11-13

If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also. But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me. John 15:19-21

Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not. Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men. If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head. Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good. Romans 12:14,17-21

Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwellingplace; And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it: Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day. 1 Corinthians 4:11-13

We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair; Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed; Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body. For we which live are always delivered unto death for Jesus' sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh. 2 Corinthians 4:8-12

For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews: Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost. 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
"How many Christians are killed for their faith every year?

The persecution facing Christians is the largest "human rights" violation issue in today's world.
According to the World Evangelical Alliance, over 200 million Christians in at least 60 countries are denied fundamental human rights solely because of their faith. David B. Barrett, Todd M. Johnson, and Peter F. Crossing in their "Missiometrics 2007" report in the International Bulletin of Missionary Research (Vol. 31, No. 1: 32) estimate that approximately 173,000 Christians will have been martyred from mid-2006 to mid-2007. This represents an increase of 1.2% over last year and compares to 160,000 martyrs in mid-2000 and 34,400 at the beginning of the 20th century. If current trends continue, Barrett, Johnson and Crossing estimate that by 2025, an average of 210,000 Christians will be martyred annually."

The*Voice of the Martyrs Canada



Looks like that would be around 474 per day for the prior year.

I'd really like to see what their paper actually says. I found the abstract online, but it mentions nothing about any Christian martyrs at all, which I would find surprising if the problem were as severe as the Voice of Martyrs FAQ implies.

I also find it strange that tens of thousands of Christians could be martyred annually and it would escape the notice of other Christian groups who claim to track this sort of thing. For instance, look at the report that Buttercup linked to: in its list of persecutions, it includes such minor items as hanging a picture of Ho Chi Minh in a church and a fight between in-laws of a mixed Muslim-Christian married couple. It does mention a number of murders, but it doesn't even hint at the wholesale slaughter that you're implying.

Something smells fishy with the claim that 173,000 Christian were martyrs in the course of a year. I'd want to make sure that the authors of that report aren't playing fast-and-loose with their numbers (e.g. are they counting all Christians who died violently, even if they weren't killed for religious reasons? Are they counting aborted fetuses?), and want to have some corroboration, before I'd accept those sorts of statistics.
 

Smoke

Done here.
Something smells fishy with the claim that 173,000 Christian were martyrs in the course of a year. I'd want to make sure that the authors of that report aren't playing fast-and-loose with their numbers (e.g. are they counting all Christians who died violently, even if they weren't killed for religious reasons? Are they counting aborted fetuses?), and want to have some corroboration, before I'd accept those sorts of statistics.
I'm skeptical, too. For one thing, that was a projection, not a report. Even if it had been a report, I'm not seeing it. About 100,000 people a year have been killed in Darfur; I find it difficult to believe that 173,000 Christians are martyred every year -- even if they counted all the Darfuris killed, which would be questionable.

Here are the numbers from their bulletin:

19 December: reported 10 killed (Muslim rampage in northern Nigeria)
12 December: reported 4 killed (Colorado church shooting)
5 December: reported dispositions of cases from in which more than 12 people were killed in 2005 and 2006
28 November: reported 2 killed (1 in India and one in Nigeria)
21 November: didn't report any killed
14 November: didn't report any killed
7 November: didn't report any killed
31 October: didn't report any killed

If an average of about 14,500 Christians are killed every month, The Voice of the Martyrs Canada isn't doing a very good job uncovering the stories.

In India, violence against Christians is backlash resulting from the real or perceived cultural aggression of missionaries. I consider missionaries utterly useless people engaged in a bad work anyway, so if they want to expose themselves to persecution, I have no objection, but I do think they ought to take into account that they are also exposing local Christians in the countries where they work to persecution. That's not to excuse the violence in any way, but the fact remains that Hindus in India feel -- and not without reason -- besieged by Muslims and Christians, and missionaries just exacerbate those feelings. Even so, for the period I looked at, VOMC reported only one martyr in India: a distant relative of a pastor who was killed in unknown circumstances.

Nevertheless, persecution is rampant and real, mostly in Muslim and Communist countries, and some of the stories on the site are horrible, even when they don't report any deaths.
 

wednesday

Jesus
Fighting over God, how intelligent. I do not understand those who are called 'martyr's' in countries such as China where Christianity is more like an underground cult than a religion practiced by millions world wide. Why supress a minority simply for what they practise in their spare time? One God is only different from another by what name you call him.
 
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