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No it is important that we recognise that truth is whatever we determine it to be collectively.Is a transcendent foundation for truth, as is found in religions, necessary for peace?
Even if we can't agree on what that truth is, is it important that we have faith in a good that is higher than any human institution can be?
Absolutely. Collective will of the people expressed as a political and tangible, rather than (superfluous) "transcendent" voice.If there is no good based upon a Transcendent Absolute, does that mean that the highest good is determined by power, rather than by truth?
I think perhaps she was using religion as an example because it is likely the biggest influence on any given culture.You see the cultural differences as mainly religious differences?
And I doubt we ever will.Yes, but we don't ever seem to get out of this particular problem.
To a large degree. At this point in time religion isn't a unifying force and I'm not sure it ever can be. I mean, the differences are enormous when you think about it. For example, have you ever heard of Cargo Cults? Not that these are violent religions but they do contribute to communication and moral difficulties with the Western world for sure.You see the cultural differences as mainly religious differences?
No it is important that we recognise that truth is whatever we determine it to be collectively.
Absolutely. Collective will of the people expressed as a political and tangible, rather than (superfluous) "transcendent" voice.
Interesting answer Oz. (The System says I don't have more furbals to give out tonight :sad4
I was not referring to a transcendent voice, but faith in a transcendent 'good.' A good not based on world powers.
You see the collective will of the people as the highest good? Won't there always be some that don't agree?
And I doubt we ever will.
To many people think that their transcendent truth is better/superior to/etc than any transcendent truth that is different from theirs.
What transpires in time and space is not relevant to the essential oneness of infinity and eternity. Besides, the human race is still young.Yes, but we don't ever seem to get out of this particular problem.
To a large degree. At this point in time religion isn't a unifying force and I'm not sure it ever can be. I mean, the differences are enormous when you think about it. For example, have you ever heard of Cargo Cults? Not that these are violent religions but they do contribute to communication and moral difficulties with the Western world for sure.
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Yep. And that is possibility of the transcendent voice as well as the reality of the transcendent good.Won't there always be some that don't agree?
To many people think that their transcendent truth is better/superior to/etc than any transcendent truth that is different from theirs.
This is all well intentioned if the whole of your audience is rational and peace loving. Not such an easy group to find in reality.However, we can still find some things religions often have in common. One point in the essay above is that the diversity is good...as long as you realize that you can't resort to violence to make your truth ascendent.
Yup. With or without religion.This is all well intentioned if the whole of your audience is rational and peace loving. Not such an easy group to find in reality.
Yes. Agreed for sure. :yes: But, I love you! It's a start!Yup. With or without religion.
Interesting...had never heard of this before.
You are such a sweetie. :hug: Thank you for always making my threads interesting.Yes. Agreed for sure. :yes: But, I love you! It's a start!
You are such a sweetie. :hug:
Oh, don't fall for that crap. I've seen her true colors.
Right. And one person's rationality is another person's extreme fundamentalism.I don't like the idea of might makes right. :no: That's the danger of an ethic based only upon reason.
I wonder if the aliens would leave us with "transcendent truth" in the cargo.Interesting...had never heard of this before.
I wonder, if we were visited by space aliens with advanced technology if we'd all form a cargo cult based upon the aliens.