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Recent content by Sabour

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    Can someone be a Muslim Jew?

    No one can be a muslim jew because each has different set of beliefs. Example, muslims belief in all the prophets including Jesus and Mohamad peace be upon them. Islam doesnt teach that. Even the verse quoted is not quoted as a whole and rather cut and pasted. Here is the whole verse (5:48)...
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    Convincing in a believer vs. nonbeliever debate

    You mean the approach as a whole or that particular example ?
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    Convincing in a believer vs. nonbeliever debate

    Well I think it is possible but it rarely happens. Not because of what you have mentioned, but because few people are open minded to challenge their beliefs and reflect. Most people think of a belief as something that a person blindly follows. That is not the case. There is always a strong...
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    Was Muhammad a Messenger of God?

    I do agree that today we have many people who call themselves scholars and they are the problem itself because rather than reasoning with our people they just expect people to follow blindly. Some of them discourages asking questions and doubt the intent of the questioner. So I some how agree...
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    Was Muhammad a Messenger of God?

    I stumbling block between you and me is that I see the verse to be literally and you see it metaphorically, let us leave that for the understanding of each reader.
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    Was Muhammad a Messenger of God?

    I think you may find it in biographies about Muhammad peace be upon him. I don't see how a Muhammad's (peace be upon him) initial reaction would discredit what he came up with for 23 years. We don't even know how angel Gabriel looks like. After all the prophet is still a human. The way I see...
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    Was Muhammad a Messenger of God?

    4:92And never is it for a believer to kill a believer except by mistake. And whoever kills a believer by mistake - then the freeing of a believing slave and a compensation payment presented to the deceased's family [is required] unless they give [up their right as] charity. But if the deceased...
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    Was Muhammad a Messenger of God?

    4: 157 And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah ." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no...
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    Was Muhammad a Messenger of God?

    The Quraan does indicate that the people of the scripture has changed and altered their books as I quoted. You may be right that the Ulama say one of these is the bible and does make a lot of sense. If the Quraan says that there is an Injeel revealed to prohet Jesus peace be upon him and we have...
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    My views about Islam and why it is so difficult to attain constructive dialogue about them

    I know this is a "your view thread", but I think you might want to replace the word Islam with God
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    Was Muhammad a Messenger of God?

    Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him used to isolate himself because he wasn't impressed by what his society. They were worshiping idols. He was keeping that for himself, that is why he was in isolation. After some time of the first revelation he started talking to his close circle about islam...
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    Was Muhammad a Messenger of God?

    I was talking there about explicit statements and not implicit statements. Saying that Jesus peace be upon him was not crucified is explicit in the Quraan and saying that Allah is One and He is the only One worthy of worship is also an explicit statement. Not all passages need interpretation...
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    Was Muhammad a Messenger of God?

    See the difference is that far too many muslims ( and you can also see it today) memorize the Quraan from the first letter till the last. And the language of the Quraan is arabic which is still a living language. The gathering of the Quraan involved many companions of Muhammad peace be upon him...
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    Was Muhammad a Messenger of God?

    Muhamad peace be upon him didn't pen the Quraan himself. There is a major point that one needs to know to understand the difference. Did you ever come across muslims who memorize the Quraan ? From the first word to the last word ? Muslims have been doing that ever the revelation started. In...
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    Was Muhammad a Messenger of God?

    Let me quote form the Quraan. 4:157 And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah ." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in...
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