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    How the Greek Conceptions of Logos can Elucidate John 1:1 Jesus as Logos

    Happy to help
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    How the Greek Conceptions of Logos can Elucidate John 1:1 Jesus as Logos

    Yes. Per Epicureanism and Jesus: Epicureanism was never a large movement within the Roman world. Paul as a Hellenized Jew was certainly aware of Epicurean Thought, as noted in the Book of Acts, but Paul isn’t Christ, so that doesn’t further the claim. For one to argue Epicureanism influenced...
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    How the Greek Conceptions of Logos can Elucidate John 1:1 Jesus as Logos

    This two volume collection is relatively new: -“Stoic Classics Collection: Marcus Aurelius's Meditations, Epictetus's Enchiridion, Seneca's On The Happy Life” -“ Stoic Classics Collection, Volume II: Epictetus’s Selected Discourses, Seneca's On Anger, Seneca's On Clemency, Diogenes...
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    How the Greek Conceptions of Logos can Elucidate John 1:1 Jesus as Logos

    Happy to help. There is heavy use of Stoic concepts and larger Hellenistic elements all through the NT. The Book of Romans is a perfect example. It is a quintessentially Hellenistic work. One of the issues with Biblical studies in general is most of those involved engage the text(s) from a...
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    Jewish Shekhinah, Christian & Mormon Holy Spirit

    While each book can/should be taken on it's own merits, when it comes to monographs, I recommend generally staying with peer reviewed work and/or things published by university presses. If one isn't a specialist in a field (and thereby regularly reading relevant academic journals), it's too...
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    Jewish Shekhinah, Christian & Mormon Holy Spirit

    I think you would benefit from the works of Mark S Smith. For example, his: - "The Early History of God: Yahweh and the Other Deities in Ancient Israel” -“The Origins of Biblical Monotheism: Israel's Polytheistic Background and the Ugaritic Texts” Or William G Devers: -“Did God Have a...
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    How the Greek Conceptions of Logos can Elucidate John 1:1 Jesus as Logos

    Even though Philo was a Hellenized Jew, I don’t think he is the primary touchstone one wants to look to for understanding logos found in the New Testament (NT). Philo was not tied to the Jesus Movement and the intellectual history and use of logos predates First Century Alexandria. Logos is...
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    Jewish Shekhinah, Christian & Mormon Holy Spirit

    If you are interested in exploring feminine deity(ies) in Jewish Thought, rather than Medieval Jewish Mysticism, one can look to First Temple Judaism and the Ugaritic Tradition. You reference Margaret Barker, so I assume you are familiar with her thesis on a multistrand Jewry that had at least...
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    Well, I've been a member for 2 years tonight

    I believe a key distinction between LDS and a Raelian posture is that in LDS Thought the moral question is fundamental. It is not intellect, or technology that is salvatory. It is a broken heart and contrite spirit. This was applicable in the Bronze Age as well in the Twenty First Century.
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    Does Paul Agree With LDS?

    I was typing on other points you brought up and then saw the above. Is the above the core of your argument? If so, the question is more on orientation, not whether the concept existed. To the orientation, I presented Levenson's "Resurrection and Restoration of Israel: The Ultimate Victory of...
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    Does Paul Agree With LDS?

    Given Judaism is orthopraxic with no centralized authority, references to an official dogma wouldn't follow. I'm unsure what you are arguing. You recognize there was a place called Sheol. Place entails a geography and within that geography something called the dead are gathered. Am I...
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    Does Paul Agree With LDS?

    Hello, I don't know any academics that deny that by the Second Temple Period the notion of resurrection/afterlife was well established within Jewry. The Book of Daniel is typically cited as one clear example: -"Many of those that sleep in the dust of the earth will awake, some to eternal...
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    Does Paul Agree With LDS?

    Hello, The distinction being attempted here between apparition, specter, ghost and spirit doesn't really follow. Phantasma does not refer to something non-material or distinct from the physical arena. In fact, the very notion of a thing existing that is not tied fundamentally to materiality...
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    Does Paul Agree With LDS?

    I was planning on seeing Tenet. I really like Christopher Nolan as a director. From the first film of his I saw "The Prestige" (that when I saw it, and didn't know it was Nolan's work and thought it was such a smart and well crafted story) forward, I've liked his film craft. I am even more a...
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    Does Paul Agree With LDS?

    Religious group X makes truth claims. If those truth claims are derived from a religious text, there are the following issues: What is the text? Why is the text authoritative? What is the interpretive model (the hermeneutical schema)? For Jehovah’s Witness (JW): 1) is the New World...
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