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Recent content by Onlooker

  1. Onlooker

    Creationist - What about Evolution you disagree with?

    Not my intention, sorry. So if I start a thread, your expecting me to read up on that stuff arent you. No more on that subject.
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    Creationist - What about Evolution you disagree with?

    Yes and no. Yes- that scientist cant give a complete answer. No- scientist are gaining focus and will probably get the answers. They have the advantage of holding their heads high and peer over at their metaphysical scientist colleagues and chortle. I use to have a standard of perfection, but...
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    Creationist - What about Evolution you disagree with?

    Have you read any abiogenesis theories? Let me lay one on you and tell me if this sounds like gibberish or mystical? The amino acids (that somehow formed, much like the MU experiment of chemical soup and lightning in a redox atmosphere), these amino acids somehow grouped together in a...
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    Creationist - What about Evolution you disagree with?

    enlighten us, was it.....a mineral. Was it ......an amino acid. Was it the rna virus, dna or rna plasmid that gained sustenance from the soup? Was it.....?
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    Creationist - What about Evolution you disagree with?

    They are relevant if they are poised to you in the form of a question. Also, when evolutionist talk about creationist, it opens the door for the above. If you want to stick to a strict conversation about evolution, maybe describing the mystical believers as the ID guys. It would limit it to just...
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    Creationist - What about Evolution you disagree with?

    Yes, no one questions the obvious, the not so obvious is the first, the alpha, the beginning cell. Its part of the evolutionist belief system, we evolved (notice all the science facts btw) and we came from a cell (inferred, obviously) but we all believe it was ......um.......its another branch...
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    Creationist - What about Evolution you disagree with?

    Whats UCA?
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    Creationist - What about Evolution you disagree with?

    what is your "point" of the origin of life. Mine involves a Creator. Sure, you may not contemplate that point, but its valid since I brought it up. Your belief system is in question when it comes to the unanswerable aspects of our world. What do you believe on how the first cell was...
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    Creationist - What about Evolution you disagree with?

    That is wrong. Def:a presupposition (or ps) is an implicit assumption about the world or background belief relating to an utterance whose truth is taken for granted in discourse. So it is a presupposition. for this argument i believe this definition fits the best for a conclusion: a. a reasoned...
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    Creationist - What about Evolution you disagree with?

    Good point. I personally believe that its how the argument was framed. Evolution v Creation. Inherently the creation "myth" involves big bang/cosmogenesis/abiogenesis/morality/spirituality. Evolution involves the DNA machinery and its products. So it is overwhelming to argue point for point. So...
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    Creationist - What about Evolution you disagree with?

    True, this link attempts to explain the observational part of macroevolution. My whole cryptic point is to force the average evolutionist to accept the fact they have "unknowns" in their closet. Little "untestable" secrets that are not openly discussed. Its problematic with the "scientific...
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    Creationist - What about Evolution you disagree with?

    No. you cant. this is a metaphysical, non falsifiable argument (God created... ). The DNA part is evolution with design. You are testing it. yes it is a presupposition, its a cornerstone of all evolution science. The first cell is what I am talking about. The first fossil. You cant evolve from...
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    Creationist - What about Evolution you disagree with?

    Thanks, its an interesting field no doubt. I suspect the further we get into the DNA "universe", we will unlock some new information. I would like to see abstracts of new investigations if you have any.
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    Creationist - What about Evolution you disagree with?

    So sorry. What Im trying to state is that God created the universe/galaxy/solar system/planet and the mechanism to put life on earth. That mechanism is the DNA structure with directed influence. The major presupposition of ToE is that a single cell (that is able to reproduce) came first. This...
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    Creationist - What about Evolution you disagree with?

    Yes, God created... then the DNA uber machine works over billions of years, then you show up and have a decision on whats up after this 100 year ride on the 3rd rock from the sun. Its called axiomatic, but I dont like to give you a hall pass for an axiomatic statement on an independent (yet...
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