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Mock Turtle
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Mock Turtle

Silent Generation - so don't expect much, Male, from UK

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    1. ChristineM
      Thanks for the friendly heart frube on Poll: I've lived to a ripe old age because -
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      Thanx for the how to sin & still get into Heaven frooben.
      And for flurbilling a definition of atheism.
      And for the blasphemy vs mockery frubery.
      And for foorlbing the lyrebird's Star Wars sound effects.
      And for furballing beliefs vs feelings & trying'm on for size.
    4. ChristineM
      Thanks for informativing (just made that up) Music that moves you to tears
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      Thanks for the likes and funny frubes on Why has the status of women become so important in our age?
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      Thanks for the useful jazzy frube on Memories - or not.

      Did you ever watch the Beiderbecke series. I loved it.
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        Mock Turtle
        Not sure - on TV? I had a period where I was without a TV, after leaving college.
        Aug 23, 2020
    8. ChristineM
      Thanks for the frube on Memories - or not
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      Thanx for the natural enemies of Scots froobyl.
      And for flurballing Old Badger's new mask.
      And for the celebrating me brother's death furball.
      And for floorbing leftovers.
      And for the better doorbell flurbe.
      And for the new airplane design froub.
      And for fruballing fearing Cooky.
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      And thanks also for the frube on Why religious forums ?
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      Thanx for the Twisted Nerve froobe.
      And for flurbing The Simpsons & Powerhouse.
      And for The Marriage Of Figaro played on a chicken fruben.
      And for furballing dangerous Japanese technology.
      And for the judgement free flurbal.
      And for foolbring worrying about the leopard.
      And for the newbie vs atheists froobyl.
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      Thanx for the atheist bashing club froube.
      And for flurbing long dead goatherds justifying modern evil acts.
      And for the $9.99 frubal.
      And for foulbring traveling to planets with better climes.
      And for the defense of language froobuage.
      And for floorbing cutting out ferrin sections of manuals.
      And for the Komradbook surveil list froube.
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    Irreverent/irrelevant old git
    Fellowship of the Mutable (agnostic atheist)
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    Some useful reading (for me at least), and in no particular order of merit (but with some recommendations) - many read a long time ago by the way:


    Life 3.0 (2017) by Max Tegmark - an exploration into how AI might develop and the likely problems associated with such
    Factfulness (2018) by Hans Rosling - why one should get the facts to inform one's opinion, which is often just not the case (must read)
    Future Shock (1970) by Alvin Toffler - arguing effects of rapid change and the possible societal consequences of such
    Maladies & Medicine: Exploring Health & Healing, 1540-1740 (2017) by Jennifer Evans & Sara Read - an exploration of health and healing in England during this period
    10 Billion (2013) by Stephen Emmott - pessimistic appraisal of population growth and what the implications are (must read)

    Religions and such:

    The End of Faith (2005) by Sam Harris - exploring the negative effects of religious beliefs
    Breaking the Spell (2007) by Daniel Dennett - an explanation as to why religion might be seen as a purely natural phenomena
    The God Argument (2013) by A C Grayling - the case for Humanism as opposed to what religions offer
    The God Delusion (2006) by Richard Dawkins - one atheist's view as to why religious beliefs are delusions

    Human behaviour and history:

    Behave (2017) by Robert Sapolsky - attempting to explain why we behave as we do, involving so many aspects of being human (must read)
    Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind (2015) by Yuval Noah Harari - from insignificant and more primitive ape to being the one exceptionally advanced ape (must read)
    Homo Deus: A Brief History of Tomorrow (2016) by Yuval Noah Harari - following on from the previous book, where we might be headed (must read)
    A Million Years in a Day (2015) by Greg Jenner - the origins of so many things we take for granted
    A Brief History of Everyone Who Ever Lived (2017) by Adam Rutherford - what our genes, and the history of such, reveal about us (must read)
    The Bonobo and the Atheist (2014) by Frans de Waal - exploring any biological basis for morality (must read)
    Guns, Germs, and Steel (1997) by Jared Diamond - proposing how geographical and environmental factors have shaped the modern world (must read)
    The Blind Watchmaker (1986) by Richard Dawkins - an argument for why the Theory of Evolution is a better one than any design being involved
    The Selfish Gene (1976) by Richard Dawkins - the unique role of genes in human life
    Sociobiology: The New Synthesis (1975) by E O Wilson - attempts to explain much of human behaviour from our biological past (must read)

    The Mind:

    Logically Fallacious (2015) by Bo Bennett - as stated, crash course in logical fallacies
    The Art of Failure (2010) by Dr Neel Burton - designated as the anti self-help guide and what actually is seen as success
    Shrinks: The Untold Story of Psychiatry (2015) by Jeffrey A Lieberman, MD - an account of the painful history of psychiatry and associated treatments
    Against Empathy (2016) by Paul Bloom - how empathy is too often local and/or based upon what appeals, and why this might not be so beneficial overall
    The Remembered Present (1990) by Gerald Edelman - developing a theory concerning consciousness
    Bright Air, Brilliant Fire: On the Matter of the Mind (1992) by Gerald Edelman - theory that the mind has arisen through evolutionary morphology
    Consciousness Explained (1991) by Daniel Dennett - argues how consciousness arises from interaction of physical and cognitive processes
    Women, Fire, and Dangerous Things: What Categories Reveal About the Mind (1987) by George Lakoff - argues for a model of cognition on the basis of semantics
    The Origins of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind (1982) by Julian Jaynes - argues for a bicameral mind being in existence until recent times (must read)
    The Myth of Irrationality (1993) by John McCrone - some thoughts as per title concerning the workings of the human mind
    The Society of Mind (1986) by Marvin Minsky - a theory concerning how the mind is constructed through simpler processes
    How the Mind Works (1997) by Steven Pinker - how the mind works from an evolutionary psychology perspective
    The Language Instinct (1994) by Steven Pinker - argues that humans are born with an innate capacity for language
    The Blank Slate (2002) by Steven Pinker - arguing for human behaviour being shaped by evolutionary psychological adaptations rather than any 'blank slate'
    The Origins of Virtue (1996) by Matt Ridley - explores the issues surrounding the development of human morality
    The Red Queen (1993) by Matt Ridley - explores the evolutionary psychology perspective of sexual selection
    Survival of the Prettiest: The Science of Beauty (1999) by Nancy Etcoff - argues that our concept of beauty is in our biology rather than being a construct
    The Beauty Myth (1990) by Naomi Wolf - proposing that societal pressures have much to do with our concept of beauty
    From Bacteria to Bach And Back: The Evolution of Minds (2017) by Daniel Dennett - a possible explanation for the evolution of consciousness (not finished yet)

    Books not read yet or only partially read:

    The Christian Delusion: Why Faith Fails (2010) Ed by John W. Loftus - a collection of essays by various authors, as per title
    Religion Explained: The Evolutionary Origins of Religious Thought (2001) by Pascal Boyer - approaches the subject via evolutionary biology and cognitive psychology
    The Moral Animal: Why We Are The Way We Are (1994) by Robert Wright - an approach to such via evolutionary psychology


    My Precious :smilingimp: One rule to rule them all (other rules), one rule to guide them, one rule to ring the world, and in their darkness, bind them. (after Tolkien) - That rule being? - :handpointright: DO NO HARM :handpointleft:
    BJH :star: Dead Can Dance :star: Strawbs :star: Blowzabella :star: VdGG :star: Bonzo Dog :star: Nice.:musicnotes:
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