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Recent content by .kaleb

  1. K

    Is the holy spirit, God, or something else?

    And yet John the Baptist said of Jesus: The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.- (King James Version) John 1:29 Or... King James Version Revelation 5:12 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain...
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    Jesus is under subjection to God.

    Yes Jesus is king of the kingdom in the heavens. But as 1 Corinthians 15:50 clearly shows, "flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of the heavens", so how can Jesus have a physical body? In answer to whether angels are spirits, consider Hebrews 1:13,14 (King James Version) But to which of...
  3. K

    Jesus is under subjection to God.

    In what sense? Genesis 2:24 says: That is why a man will leave his father and his mother and he will stick to his wife, and they will become one flesh. Is man and wife literally one flesh? Is God and Jesus one flesh? How can you reconcile that statement with 1 Corinthians 15:50 (King James...
  4. K

    Jesus is under subjection to God.

    Of course you are entitled to your opinion. But you would have to provide very convincing conclusions to make me see what Paul said in a different light. I'm yet to see it.
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    Jesus is under subjection to God.

    *Romans 5:12 not 2. 12 That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because they had all sinned (King James Version)Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed...
  6. K

    Jesus is under subjection to God.

    It seems so simple when explained like that. I happen to agree with you, but not all see it that way.
  7. K

    Is the holy spirit, God, or something else?

    The quality or attribute of wisdom is described thruout chapter 8. However starting from vs 22, the context changes, wisdom is now being personified. (Byington) vs 22 “Jehovah framed me first in line, foremost of his works in the past. - was there ever a time almighty God never had wisdom...
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    Jesus is under subjection to God.

    Tho this was directed at moorea, I felt obligated to respond. Understanding the nature of Christ and the nature of Adam is pivotal in understanding the ransom. Adam was created sinless, as was Jesus. Adam was created as a living soul on earth, as was Jesus. It is in this way that Jesus had the...
  9. K

    Jesus is under subjection to God.

    Interesting you should say that. The apostle Paul often spoke of his upward calling whilst still on earth. In PHILLIPIANS 3:13,14 Paul says: Brothers, I do not yet consider myself as having taken hold of it; but one thing is certain: Forgetting the things behind and stretching forward to the...
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    Is the holy spirit, God, or something else?

    I think Kolibri put it best in his response to your question. I've always likened to it as when my house was built, let's say it was by Peters new Homes, Peter the owner of the company may not ever show up on site, yet receives the credit for building the house. Likewise, Proverbs 8:30 says of...
  11. K

    Holes in the trinity

    Jesus himself says: Moreover, no man has ascended into heaven but the one who descended from heaven, the Son of man.- John 3:13 and you have nailed here. (No pun intended)Peter tells us: For Christ died once for all time for sins, a righteous person for unrighteous ones, in order to lead you...
  12. K

    Is the holy spirit, God, or something else?

    :D I shall add that to my growing list of one liners. I read with interest your break down of the first 3 chapters, and I'm sure you would agree, you context is vital. Sometimes Christ directly speaks to John, sometimes it's thru an angel... It takes very careful reading and re-reading. That...
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    Is the holy spirit, God, or something else?

    You have a very impressive way of reasoning. I guess the only adjunction I would have to add, is that by my way of thinking, 1 Corinthians 11:3 is stating an order of submission. And whilst you correctly say, man is not superior to woman, man is inferior to Christ. Man is a created being. I...
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    Holes in the trinity

    I guess how you see the ransom may determine whether or not you believe it has been payed or not. A ransom as described by one dictionary is: 3. a means of deliverance or rescue from punishment for sin, especially the payment of a redemptive fine. Adam sold us, all humankind, into sin and...
  15. K

    Holes in the trinity

    I must admit, I don't quite see the connection with John 14:23. I believe the scriptures indicate that Jesus had a definite beginning, that Jehovah caused him into existence. The scriptures I believe prove this in particular is proverbs 8:22-30. Now most trinitarians that I have discussed this...
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