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Recent content by joelr

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    Did Jesus Christ Actually Exist?

    You didn't read his article and you are responding to something made up. "The evidence that the Testimonium Flavianum (or TF) is entirely a late Christian forgery is now as overwhelming as such evidence could ever get.. The new article is by Paul Hopper, Distinguished Professor of the...
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    Did Jesus Christ Actually Exist?

    It's been demonstrated with good evidence. You don't have to believe anything, you can live in a made-up fantasy world. It's standard knowledge in academia. I gave you some information from scholar who is considered the authority in the Persian religion and it's influence on Judaism. You...
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    Difference in moral thought between atheists and believers

    By Biblical standards of immorality we were ZERO % immoral. There was no LAW that said kill every living thing. No LAW that said you may take the women and children as plunder? What kind of archaic evil behavior are you defending? There was also no LAW that said if an offer of peace was made...
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    Difference in moral thought between atheists and believers

    Only religion can make someone pretend they don't know the difference between killing every living thing in a city vs having to target some cities to reach a surrender. Had they surrendered early there would be no killing. The Bible calls for either killing every living thing, no matter what. Or...
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    Difference in moral thought between atheists and believers

    After WW2 Japan was lacking rice and flour and their industry relied on our oil, steel and iron. We also could not give them time to build up an army, which would also make others suffer resources. Both are horrible, not an argument at all. The average person would have preferred the military...
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    Difference in moral thought between atheists and believers

    The majority didn't have a say. If the military wanted to hold off they would be the last to feel the pressure while millions of people ate less and less food. After that it gets really bad, like what happened in Russia. Mass suffering and starvation.
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    Did Jesus Christ Actually Exist?

    That makes it even weirder that you gaslight me for using a specialist? Petra Pakkanen, Interpreting Early Hellenistic Religion (1996), determined 4 trends seen in all mystery religions, Christainity fomfirms to all 4: - Syncretism: combining a foreign cult deity with Hellenistic elements...
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    Did Jesus Christ Actually Exist?

    Osirus was the dying/rising demigod however, not Antinous. And some were not. So what? We cannot prove Paul thought Jesus had a brother. The word he uses for brother is the Greek word for "brother in the Lord". Paul may have thought Jesus went through his passion in the celestial realm...
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    Did Jesus Christ Actually Exist?

    Greek Hellenism is a very specific type of religion. Besides dying/rising savior deities that provide personal salvation, the concept of a soul that goes directly to it's real home in heaven, Hellenistic baptism, eucharist, Logos, the 4 trends associated with all mystery religions: -...
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    Difference in moral thought between atheists and believers

    No, you can look this up. 3% of the Japanese population had been killed by the end of WW2. Not EVERY LIVING THING. And we DID NOT take women and children as plunder of war. We fought until they surrendered and no more. We did not take the heathen as slaves either, and their children. We helped...
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    Difference in moral thought between atheists and believers

    Um, are you serious right now? NO. We did not: 1)put to the sword all the men in it. 2)As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves 3) And you may use the plunder the Lord your God gives you from your enemies. 4)...
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    Difference in moral thought between atheists and believers

    Then why post on " Religious Debates " and are just making claims and evangelizing? Again, this isn't about my salvation but rather a debate forum to hash out concepts, provide evidence for your beliefs and such. Salvation is a Hellenistic concept where through the passion, usually a death...
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    Difference in moral thought between atheists and believers

    Prove the Bible is Gods words. And why does that God like to use older myths from Mesopotamia, act exactly like all Near Eastern deities of that time? Then later use theology from other religions who just happened to occupy Israel like the Persians and Greeks? Why does your "god" think...
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    Difference in moral thought between atheists and believers

    Deuteronomy 20 When you go to war against your enemies and see horses and chariots and an army greater than yours, do not be afraid of them, because the Lord your God, who brought you up out of Egypt, will be with you. If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to...
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    Difference in moral thought between atheists and believers

    Yes metaphorically. If someone has a virus or cancer the virus and cancer want to live. Nature is just doing what it does, it doesn't care either way. Only we care.
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