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    Christian: Some passages about Jesus being God

    Aqualung, How do LDS reconcile Jesus' reference with their doctrine (where Jesus is just a god among gods)? Here is the temptation where Satan tests Jesus:Matt. 4:6-8 "If you are the Son of God," he said, "throw yourself down. For it is written: " 'He will command...
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    Genesis 1:27

    I think it would be a mistake to interpret the image God created Adam ("mankind") in, as something purely related to resemblance. This possibility is already excluded to a certain extent by the fact that this "man" was created "male and female". I have little doubt that it refers to a particular...
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    Christian - Christ is the only way to salvation

    That's a terrible argument. People may have different opinions about an exact same sentence, not to mention a book - no matter how complete. There's nothing missing from the work Jesus did, or from the gospels that testify to what He did (there are no less than four of them in the Bible, all...
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    Christian - Christ is the only way to salvation

    s That's only because you don't distinguish between restoring a church and restoring a gospel, as you should. For your argument to make sense, you'd have to show that the Bible (i.e. the good news - gospel - of salvation and the literature it inspired) had been affected by this...
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    Christian - Christ is the only way to salvation

    That's a question that might be a problem for someone whose faith depends on his deeds. "Am I good enough? Am I genuinely manifesting the Spirit, or is it wishful thinking? Are my acts of love supernatural or natural?" If you can doubt yourself like that, it's a warning sign that your faith is...
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    Christian - Christ is the only way to salvation

    That brings you back to the original problem of how the keys could have been lost by the first Christians. What did the first apostles manage to do wrong, that Mormons are doing right? It's not righteousness, I can tell you that.
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    Christian - Christ is the only way to salvation

    1. We know that we have come to know him [Christ] if we obey his commands. The man who says, "I know him," but does not do what he commands is a liar... (1 John 2:3) 2. This is how we know we are in him: Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did. (1 John 2:5) 3. This is how we know...
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    Christian - Christ is the only way to salvation

    You're just imbedding the problem deeper by using the words "proper-authority". My question is who is the proper authority - Christ or men? It used to be men, since the high priest used to be a man, and Aaron and his sons (who still hold the only proper Aaronic priesthood - since it depended on...
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    Christian - Christ is the only way to salvation

    Thank you brother jim. This is why I insist that good works have no meritorious value - not in a Christian or in any other faith. So when I say "our actions either confirm or deny our faith", I don't mean specifically Christian faith, although it applies to Christians as well. Anybody's faith...
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    Christian - Christ is the only way to salvation

    You're bifurcating. Please answer the question again: Who is it that makes them count? How many priests were allowed into the Holy of holies, to intercede and make atonement for the community? And how many priests or elders were that priest (or priests) dependent on for interceding like this...
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    Christian - Christ is the only way to salvation

    Why don't you quote the commandments Jesus mentioned? Then, please tell us why only Mormons are able to follow those commandments. Who do you trust the merit of your works to? Who "makes them count"? Of course not, because "faith alone" does not exist (the doctrine of "sola fide" means...
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    Christian - Christ is the only way to salvation

    Jesus also never said that only some could baptise - it's a deduction we made ourselves. The apostles seemed only concerned with keeping the faith intact - so much so that they didn't baptise much themselves; they left it to the elders. When that faith is intact, the baptism is valid. If it's...
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    Christians--Every human was born a sinner.

    It says sin is not taken into account - not that it isn't still sin (sin was in the world even before the law was given). That's why "death reigned" even over those who did not break any commands; without sin there would have been no death. I have a problem with it when we assume we know what...
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    Christian - Christ is the only way to salvation

    The key word here is "righteousness" - being justified before God. When sin isn't taken into account, and faith is counted as righteousness, then a person stands before God blameless. Jesus made this possible. But he was also making sure that people knew exactly what their chances were without...
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    Christians--Every human was born a sinner.

    Not quite: Romans 5:12-13 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned— for before the law was given, sin was in the world. But sin is not taken into account when there is no law. Nevertheless, death...
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