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Recent content by Hevenly Heathen

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    Is the US founded on "Christian values" ?

    You brought it up with the documents you supplied as evidence of Christian morals in state documents.
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    Is the US founded on "Christian values" ?

    Let me attempt to clarify: If I use the Iriquois as inspiration, that doesn't mean I use their religious beliefs as my inspiration. Our Founding Fathers used their ways of governing as an example to follow, but they didn't attribute anything to Iriquios sprituality or morals. So why state that...
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    Is the US founded on "Christian values" ?

    With the formation, yes. As a base for its founding, no. One is the physical make up, the other the inclusion of these states into something new. But I would like to hear anything you may be willing to share where it demonstrates that building churches influenced the founding of the U.S., or...
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    new to religion, which one is right & true

    No. I would suffer arguement so far as to seek to prove why one is true, but tell me how that can be done canonically? Especially if there is no solid evidence in the books or there is so much debate around them. It's easy to find which one is true: Whichever religion feels true to you...
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    Is the US founded on "Christian values" ?

    Yes I have. But Wheaties could also give them strength, and character. I think we have shifted from the founding being influenced to settlers' strength base. Some came for religion, others not. You do not need a strong religious base, or one at all, to have principle and character, just the...
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    Washekesheke, Religious forums

    Warm Welcome! I hope you can provide us with insight and opinions of your own to allow us to question ourselves.
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    Is the US founded on "Christian values" ?

    Yes and no. The message we learn from them is their reason, and I believe that their reason for settling and their struggles are what helped found this nation, not their religion. I believe that this is what was in the minds of our Forefathers as they looked at what needed to be done. That...
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    new to religion, which one is right & true

    Question: What does much of this later fluff have to do with the OP?
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    Is the US founded on "Christian values" ?

    Well, many Native Americans believe they came out of the Earth, and they were hear first... :run:
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    2012 Launch of African Americans for Obama

    Beautiful girls!!! You are a lucky parent, and I hope you are ready to fend of boys.
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    Is the US founded on "Christian values" ?

    This is a slippery slope. If we use such reasoning, could we logically assume that these first settlers are also responsible for the Communist Witch Hunts?
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    Is the US founded on "Christian values" ?

    Now we are arguing evolution. When does our country become a country? How far back do we look to find it's foundations? Typically, in my experience, only those documents and actions which add momentum to our establishing the US, which firmly state our intentions and outlines what we wish to...
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    Is the US founded on "Christian values" ?

    I read 133, and 135 until it was obvious that these were systems of governing prior to our U.S. becoming a country. Benjamin Franklin's speech is nothing more than an individual expressing his own spiritual gratitude, but does not speak for anyone else. They were specific, thank you.
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    Socialist Extremists: Why Money?

    Are we debunking you, or Him? I agree with Him. People have used trade before. Coming to a mutual agreement on what goods/services to be traded. It happens even today. It doesn't involve money.
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    Is the US founded on "Christian values" ?

    Do any of these mention specific morals from Christianity that are to be followed, or do they simply state some generic 'by the will of God' or 'by God's grace'?
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