This thread is quite an enjoyable read, good debating, especially on the parts of Paroxys, Autodidact, and The Voice of Reason. Anyway, icdchris' experiences with this 'god' fellow remind me quite a bit of a story I read a while back, Cold Fire, by Dean Koontz. The main character was...
While I used to hold pretty strongly the UU view, and believed quite strongly in the whole "live and let live" sort of philosophy (or perhaps, believe and let believe is more correct:rolleyes:), I have hardened my heart a bit towards the religious. I am not militant, and I am no fan of violence...
First, I haven't been on in a while, and I'm not even sure if I posted this in the right spot...perhaps I should have just thrown it into the debate section and seen how that went. But whatever, if it's in the wrong spot, sorry, feel free to have it moved.
Anyway, I have been pondering...
It's been awhile since I've been on here, but to make up for it I've discussed ideas with a number of people I know. One thing that I have heard far too often from creationists is that they believe in Micro-evolution but not Macro-evolution. Upon hearing this, I can't help but laugh outright...
I don't know how much I really know of real buddhism, but of what I have seen and read, I have a great respect for it. My particular version of druidism is largely self-created using druidic teachings as a guide (since I've never met another druid or found a grove). I have found, though, that...
I heard there were biblical rafting trips through the Grand Canyon, talking about how it was created by "Noah's flood." I'd like to go on it just to see what kind of hogwash they're telling people.
Personally, as one who has been on both sides of the fence, I'd prefer non-belief. It's so much more open and flexible, I've never been fond of rules and being subject to 2000 year old system of morals. I like to decide for myself.
Also, if I were then wrong, and this 'god' were so cruel as...
FFH, what exactly are you talking about? All of your examples of 'balance' are...uninformed. The earth doesn't shake violently because of gravity and...well I'm not entirely sure what would cause it to shake violently in the first place. The moon does cause the tides, yes, but how exactly do the...
As a few have said (and MidnightBlue's little snippet so well stated), christians are crying not because of true persecution or intolerance, but because others are finally pushing back a little and trying to level the field. NetDoc mentioned not allowing bible groups on campus, but (as may have...
If this god fellow created the entire universe, filled with some trillions of planets (can't remember any actual estimates), making it by the laws of probability pretty well impossible for us to be alone, but then designed one race after himself, I would think that a bit unfair. The odds of us...
Marriage is man-made, animals don't marry. The bible was written by people with the viewpoints of those people at that time, and people probably married before the bible was written although with their own ideas and ceremonies which they had created.
Well, nature is my guide, not scripture. Sex is natural, marriage is man-made humbugary. I understand with STDs and all, precautions should be taken (seriously, not doubting their severity), but sex is natural and healthy. I personally would prefer to have a heavy degree of love in a...
I know the whole shroud thing is off topic, but I'm adding my piece, sorry.
You know, the Catholic church itself had the shroud carbon dated, which means they felt it accurate enough. I'm sure anyone could have guessed that if the shroud were dated so that it made it a forgary (as it was) nearly...
Wow, it has been fun reading all of this, there's like three different debates going on at once.
ApostateAbe, your argument and comments such as "at least in my mind, and it should also follow in reasonable minds" are as arrogant and self-rightious as the religious people who start threads...
I believe Sunstone was being sarcastic, Lady Moon, at least that's how I took it. It's become impossible not to notice this religion/culture war. I think it was at least started by christians being told to seperate their religion from state issues, then some christians blew it out of purportion...