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YeshuaRedeemed, Dec 11, 2019
    • Spartan
      Hate is not Holy? True. But love for sinful relationships is not Holy either.

      I think there has been a monumental societal shift within the LGBT community and that everybody widely accepts that same sex relationships are about love."

      So, if it's all about love then two adulterers in love must be okay with God too. Nope, not a chance.

      For the record,

      "Love does not rejoice in iniquity" - 1 Corinthians 13


      "Love does no harm to a neighbor" - Romans 13:10 (Love does no harm to a neighbor, like enticing one's neighbor into a sinful relationship for which there are negative temporal and eternal consequences)
    • YeshuaRedeemed
      It is not a sin to have a same sex relationship. It is none of your business, and you need to stop FORCING your beliefs on other consenting adults!
    • Spartan

      It is a sin to have same sex relations. And you don't get to deny the free speech of others so as to have free reign with your unbiblical pro-gay agenda.
    • [email protected]*VV!tch
      @Spartan Even if same-sex marriage is 100% a sin (here is a really well-written and researched article about how Jesus might have felt about same-sex marriage that I truly believe is worth the read), God gave every one of us free will. It is not our job to judge or condemn people, but rather it is our job to make the truth available to those that would repent. We don't live in a theocracy, and there's a pretty good argument that a secular government is supported by the New Testament.

      It is my personal belief that the passages often used to condemn homosexuality may or may not refer to homosexuality as we know it, but they — and all of Scripture — are conditioned by the cultural and historical realities of the authors and so offer an incomplete and insufficient understanding of creation and nature and so cannot be used to prohibit homosexual practice today. Rather, one needs to read the larger biblical witness to discern God’s hopes for caring, mutually supportive relationships, whether heterosexual or homosexual.

      Let's examine the Leviticus verse most often referenced, for example, “You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination” (18:22) You'll notice that this verse, as most texts translated between languages with no relation to each other are, especially when they're then retranslated, is extremely vague. That means that the argument could easily be made that, as these sections of verses are meant to simply set out guidelines of separation between the society of the Israelites and the society of the Egyptians from which they had escaped, that this was of cultural relevance in that era and area but is no longer. It could also be argued that the verse isn't referring to loving, consensual relationships between two married men, but instead to two guys just hooking up and getting it on, or to the specific pagan traditions at the time.

      I'll end my thoughts here with a reminder that free speech simply means that the government cannot persecute or prosecute you for speaking your mind. It doesn't protect you from individuals disagreeing, telling you you're wrong or denying you a platform. Free speech also isn't the law in every single country and doesn't apply on internet websites anyways as they are owned and run by individuals. The OP is just as much within their rights to say it's not a sin and tell you it's none of your business (which, generally, it's not, and that's Biblical) as you are to claim it is a sin, and no one is denying your free speech.

      "As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand. One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind."--Romans 14:1-12
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