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What do you know about terrorism?!

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Yerda

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Really? You offered a rather good definition of terrorism by Kofi Annan. Perhaps you could resurrect it and demonstrate how it applies.
I probably should...that'll teach me to make half-arsed assessments of things I know little about.

I'll post it in a new thread.

By the way, Jay. I think I now understand what you were getting on about people obscuring the issue i.e. I think I just did it. I'm not the brightest bulb sometimes. :eek:
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
Is that an endorsement of terrorism?

Nope. An explanation.

So, you seem to justify terrorism on the one hand and reject associating Muslims with this presumably justifiable tactic on the other. That is an interesting stand.

It's also a red herring.

Refusing to associate it with Muslims?

Sorry, it's not meant to distract, it is meant to go along with the OP. Terrorism is not a strictly Muslim enterprise. It has, in fact, been practiced by many other groups (other animals included!) throughout history. Many--including me--would argue the US engages in such activity. Propaganda is, indeed, a form of terrorism.
 

fullyveiled muslimah

Evil incarnate!
Propaganda is, indeed, a form of terrorism.


One of the best statements I have seen ina minute here. I have been wanting to say that but couldn't think to which thread it would really fit. I don't think violence is the only form of terrorism. Acts of violence aren't the only things that can induce a large group of people to be fearful for the purposes of advancing a political agenda, or social coercion. Thank you for that.
 

!Fluffy!

Lacking Common Sense
Where is one most likely to come across propaganda?

What type of government is most / least likely to disseminate propaganda?

What countries have the most/least freedom of the press?
 

James the Persian

Dreptcredincios Crestin
Propaganda is, indeed, a form of terrorism.

Now I see why another poster tends to use Nuspeak when lambasting some of the views expressed in threads like these. Talk about redefining the English language! I'll be sure to complain to the Liberal Democrats about their terrorist actions the next time I have one of their 'Party Political Broadcasts' inflicted on me, shall I? Jay is undoubtedly right about those who seek to obfuscate the issue.

James
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
Jay said:
Desperate times require desperate measures.
Is that an endorsement of terrorism?
Nope. An explanation.
No - it is not an explanation!

In the context of a discussion on terrorism, the assertion that the "desperate measures" of terrorism are "required" constitutes an endorsement.

Jay said:
I have a big problem with the current political association of Muslims to terrorism.
So, you seem to justify terrorism on the one hand and reject associating Muslims with this presumably justifiable tactic on the other. That is an interesting stand. It's also a red herring.
Refusing to associate it with Muslims?

Sorry, it's not meant to distract, it is meant to go along with the OP. Terrorism is not a strictly Muslim enterprise. ... Propaganda is, indeed, a form of terrorism.
It is a red herring because this thread in no way asserts that "terrorism is ... a strictly Muslim enterprise". And, no, propaganda is not "a form of terrorism", although propaganda to the effect that terrorism is "required" certainly serves to justify and, thereby, further enable it.
 

TashaN

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Premium Member
In the muslim countries, terrorism is defended as legitimate. Rather than being disgusted with the terrorists in their midsts and hunting them down and getting rid of them. The muslims name streets after the suicide bombers, put their faces on bags of chips and posters, teach little kids that the suicide bombers are hero's. They are glorified. They are at least tolerated and allowed to proliferate.

You are saying here that:

- All Muslims countries see terrorism as something legal.

- All Muslims glorify suicide bombers.

STOP INSULTING THE MUSLIMS AND APOLOGIZE RIGHT AWAY IF YOU CAN'T BACK UP YOUR CLAIMS.

I don't think your fellow Christians or your church would be so proud of you because you are not making to them any good and you are just misrepresenting them. Poor them.
 

Comprehend

Res Ipsa Loquitur
You are saying here that:

- All Muslims countries see terrorism as something legal.

- All Muslims glorify suicide bombers.

STOP INSULTING THE MUSLIMS AND APOLOGIZE RIGHT AWAY IF YOU CAN'T BACK UP YOUR CLAIMS.

I don't think your fellow Christians or your church would be so proud of you because you are not making to them any good and you are just misrepresenting them. Poor them.


Truth, you are reaching. :rolleyes: it's lame. I didn't insult anyone.
 

maro

muslimah
Maro, sweetie.....

I would ask what do the terrorists expect to happen when they fight while hiding behind women and children?

It is a well known tactic of the Arab fighters to use human shields and then parade the dead bodies around on TV when something happens.

Personally, I think it is disgusting that the Arabs would use their own people as human shields.
arab fighters have a history of creating media propaganda to try to help their cause and make Israel look bad.

comprehend , sweetie ... there were no bad horrible arab fighters in Qana , they were just civilians ..isn't it clear enough to you ? :sarcastic

I guess they don't like all the real photo's of the civilian death caused by their suicide bombers so they have to make up some of their own.

:biglaugh: ( i was about to frubal you for making me laugh like that , but sorry .. i have to spread some karma first :shrug: )
 

Comprehend

Res Ipsa Loquitur
comprehend , sweetie ... there were no bad horrible arab fighters in Qana , they were just civilians ..isn't it clear enough to you ?

Then how do you explain the photo of fighters launghing a rocket from Qana in post 174?

( i was about to frubal you for making me laugh like that , but sorry .. i have to spread some karma first )

glad you liked it.
 

TashaN

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Egyptian Press 2006: Less Freedom and More Violations

And yet, Egypt is one of the most important allies for USA in the middle east, and Bush knows that the egyptian government is just a puppet for them. That's why Bush can't say nothing about the democrasy crap to them. They use it only against their enemies.


Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Law - Cite This Source
Main Entry: ter·ror·ism
Pronunciation: 'ter-&r-"i-z&m
Function: noun
1 : the unlawful use or threat of violence esp. against the state or the public as a politically motivated means of attack or coercion
2 : violent and intimidating gang activity <street terrorism> —ter·ror·ist /-ist/ adj or noun —ter·ror·is·tic /"ter-&r-'is-tik/ adjective
Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Law, © 1996 Merriam-Webster, Inc.

The problem is in those who label their enemy with being a terrorist using this definition for instance and deny it when it applied to their own government which i can see clearly that's it is an act of hypocrisy.

Personally, I think it is disgusting that the Arabs would use their own people as human shields.

Another insult.
 

TashaN

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Yes.
Most definitions of terrorism include only those acts which are intended to create fear or "terror", are perpetrated for an ideological goal (as opposed to a "madman" attack), and deliberately target "non-combatants". ...
  • While the United Nations has not yet accepted a definition of terrorism, the UN's "academic consensus definition," written by terrorism expert Alex P. Schmid and widely used by social scientists, runs:
    Terrorism is an anxiety-inspiring method of repeated violent action, employed by (semi-) clandestine individual, group or state actors, for idiosyncratic, criminal or political reasons, whereby — in contrast to assassination — the direct targets of violence are not the main targets. The immediate human victims of violence are generally chosen randomly (targets of opportunity) or selectively (representative or symbolic targets) from a target population, and serve as message generators. Threat- and violence-based communication processes between terrorist (organization), (imperilled) victims, and main targets are used to manipulate the main target (audience(s)), turning it into a target of terror, a target of demands, or a target of attention, depending on whether intimidation, coercion, or propaganda is primarily sought (Schmid, 1988).​
[wiki]


Wow, thank you for providing another new definition to our list. It's indeed a long definition which make me wonder how lame it's to throw the word "terrorism" around while we have so many interpretations for it's usage.

*nods*...I concur. The OP definitions seemed to vague.

That's what i have got from my research and i'm waiting for more to come on how to implement these definitions or find a way to explain it in a clear and simple way, and no body could do that till now.
 
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