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What do you know about terrorism?!

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hollyintuc

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It is not a war on Islam, it is a war on Islamic extremists. Does anyone think that all the Germans were Nazis? Or did the good and kind Germans turn a blind eye to what the Nazis were doing because they were promised a better life, (life was very hard after WW1) The Good of the Islam faith need to speak out against the extremists. That is the only way this War on Terror will end.
 

maro

muslimah
. The people on this forum, some of them are not in the US (muslims I mean) who may be seeing a different presentation of incidents that happen. I think this is what he was addressing about the news. We are getting what we are getting over here, and people in Sudan, Egypt, Palestine, etc are either living it or may be getting things presented to them that we do not have presented to us. There are always two sides (or more) to any story. I think we have less access to the other sides. We have more mainstream access to America's side of things.

FV , as an egyptian i was shocked by how people reacted towards the war of 1973 ,

a member here said isn't it the year you invaded israel ? :eek: , and another one thought they just threw us a bone :cover:

i felt frustrated because of that ,because here in egypt we have tons of movies and songs to celebrate that day ,
we even take it as a vacation evey year ( sixth of october ) , and i even thought about starting a thread about it

and as an american, i would like to ask you :what do you know about "Qana massacre"?

do you have any idea what it's for the lebanon people ?
 

gnomon

Well-Known Member
FV , as an egyptian i was shocked by how people reacted towards the war of 1973 ,

a member here said isn't it the year you invaded israel ? :eek: , and another one thought they just threw us a bone :cover:

i felt frustrated because of that ,because here in egypt we have tons of movies and songs to celebrate that day ,
we even take it as a vacation evey year ( sixth of october ) , and i even thought about starting a thread about it

and as an american, i would like to ask you :what do you know about "Qana massacre"?

do you have any idea what it's for the lebanon people ?

What does this have to do with the thread.

I seriously doubt an Egyptian can make any claim as to what the Qana massacre means to someone from Lebanon than an American, or a Laplander, for that matter. I ask, what is the ponit of injecting this into the thread?

As far as your apparent reaction to someone stating 1973 being the year that Egypt and Syria launched surprise attacks into Israel the result of which not only was a stalemate after the threat of Soviet intervention but a redirection of Israeli policy to counter for their lack of preparedness...what is your point?
 

!Fluffy!

Lacking Common Sense
Regarding media: There is no logical reason to believe anything coming from undemocratic states where freedom of the press is repressed or doesn't exist -- it is most likely filtered, biased or just propaganda.


This was already discussed here:
http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/showpost.php?p=827905&postcount=143



interesting link:
Egyptian Press 2006: Less Freedom and More Violations

Cairo- 21-01-2007: Violations of freedom of expression in Egypt are on the increase and Egyptian journalists are slowly loosing their professional independence. State controlled newspapers are suffering from heavy debts, bad management, weak editorial control and the departure of its writers to private newspapers. Although “independent” newspapers are claiming a bigger role in the society, their influence is still limited comparing to the so-called “national papers” according to the latest APFW report on the state of freedom of expression in Egypt. However, “independent” papers are expanding the margin of freedom and destroying editorial “taboos” that hardly been touched before.
"Journalists are generally under pressure from their editors and the police system that monitor their work."


 

Comprehend

Res Ipsa Loquitur
What does this have to do with the thread.

I seriously doubt an Egyptian can make any claim as to what the Qana massacre means to someone from Lebanon than an American, or a Laplander, for that matter. I ask, what is the ponit of injecting this into the thread?

As far as your apparent reaction to someone stating 1973 being the year that Egypt and Syria launched surprise attacks into Israel the result of which not only was a stalemate after the threat of Soviet intervention but a redirection of Israeli policy to counter for their lack of preparedness...what is your point?

maro seems to believe that Egypt "won" the Sinai back... I have no idea why unless it is from Egyptian propaganda. At the end of the 1973 war, Israel still controlled the Sinai and they had the entire 3rd army of the Egyptians trapped. If the soviets didn't save Egypt, Israel was within striking distance of taking Cario.

Like I have said before Maro, Egypt didn't "win" back anything. They were saved from complete destruction by the Soviets. and Israel gave Egypt a GIFT when they gave you Sinai.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:1973_sinai_war_maps2.jpg


Israel had it's foot on Egypts throat. ;) You were saved by the UN.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur_War

read some history.
 

maro

muslimah
read some history.

ok . comprehend ,i promise i will ;)

look ,i am having exams nowadays ,that's why i can't discuss that with you in details ,
but after my exams are over (by the end of june )why don't we start a thread so that you can teach me a little bit about the history of my country ,and about a war which my father fought in , deal ? :p

and may be we can invite einstein ,not4me and cordoba to join ,what do you think ?

@ forMW , we will discuss the freedom of the egyptian press too

and sorry for taking you off topic ,guys :shrug:
 

Comprehend

Res Ipsa Loquitur
ok . comprehend ,i promise i will ;)

look ,i am having exams nowadays ,that's why i can't discuss that with you in details ,
but after my exams are over (by the end of june )why don't we start a thread so that you can teach me a little bit about the history of my country ,and about a war which my father fought in , deal ? :p

and may be we can invite einstein ,not4me and cordoba to join ,what do you think ?

@ forMW , we will discuss the freedom of the egyptian press too

and sorry for taking you off topic ,guys :shrug:

sounds fine to me. I'll be happy to clear up the propaganda you have been taught because your government restricts your media so much.

You deserve to know the truth. :)
 

maro

muslimah
I seriously doubt an Egyptian can make any claim as to what the Qana massacre means to someone from Lebanon than an American, or a Laplander, for that matter. I ask, what is the ponit of injecting this into the thread?

ok ,i asked how an american sees this massacre and to what it extent you are aware of its effects on the lebanon people ? but i haven't seen any answer to my question :rolleyes:

may be when an american can answer the question ,we can see what an egyptian has to say :shrug:
 

Quiddity

UndertheInfluenceofGiants
ok ,i asked how an american sees this massacre and to what it extent you are aware of its effects on the lebanon people ? but i haven't seen any answer to my question :rolleyes:

may be when an american can answer the question ,we can see what an egyptian has to say :shrug:
Just curious, you consider the shelling of Qana an act of terrorism?
 

Comprehend

Res Ipsa Loquitur
ok ,i asked how an american sees this massacre and to what it extent you are aware of its effects on the lebanon people ? but i haven't seen any answer to my question

may be when an american can answer the question ,we can see what an egyptian has to say

Maro, sweetie. If you want someone other than the person you addressed to answer, maybe you should say that.

In the post that you asked about Qana, you had quoted FVM and you specifically addressed her by name in your post. Why would any of us think you were asking what we thought?

Anyway, 2006 appears by many to be a set up.

I would ask what do the terrorists expect to happen when they fight while hiding behind women and children?

It is a well known tactic of the Arab fighters to use human shields and then parade the dead bodies around on TV when something happens.

Personally, I think it is disgusting that the Arabs would use their own people as human shields.

Here is a photo of Arab fighters launching a rocket from a Qana field:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Qana04.jpg

 

Comprehend

Res Ipsa Loquitur
I am just curious also; your talking about which Qana massacre; 1? Qana massacre 1996 or 2? Qana massacre 2006

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asL_ouHnYWs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Qana_airstrike

Arab fighters have a history of creating media propaganda to try to help their cause and make Israel look bad. I guess they don't like all the real photo's of the civilian death caused by their suicide bombers so they have to make up some of their own.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Israel-Lebanon_conflict_photographs_controversies

anyone remember the Mohammed al-Dura hoax?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_al-Durra

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200306/fallows

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46286
 

Jayhawker Soule

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Premium Member
Some of the facts suggest so. You have to wonder why the IDF would deliberately shell a UN compound though.
Really? You offered a rather good definition of terrorism by Kofi Annan. Perhaps you could resurrect it and demonstrate how it applies.
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
From the BBC ...
Explosion rocks Turkish capital​

Five people have been killed and at least 60 hurt in an explosion in the Turkish capital, Ankara, officials say.

"We have seen a vicious, ruthless terror attack at Ankara's busiest time," said Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who was visiting the scene.

The blast occurred during evening rush hour at the entrance to a shopping centre in the district of Ulus.

A Pakistan national was among the dead. The area has been cordoned off and an investigation has begun.

Unconfirmed reports suggest an explosive device may have been left at a nearby bus stop.

Recent attacks


Much of the front of one building was ripped off by the blast at the Anafartalar shopping centre.

TV footage showed several people lying seriously injured on the pavement surrounded by piles of concrete and glass. Other people, possibly passers-by, were hurt by flying glass.

"There was a sudden explosion, everything turned to dust. I could hear people screaming," eyewitness Cenk Yedier told AP news agency.

Turkey has been hit by bombings in recent years. Some have been blamed on Kurds and others on Islamic militants.

In November 2003, more than 60 people were killed by a series of suicide bombings in Istanbul which the authorities linked to al-Qaeda.

Kurdish rebels carried out a spate of attacks on tourist sites in Turkey last year, killing more than a dozen people.
Sadly, those who seem to have so much difficulty identifying terrorism will be given ample opportunity to refine their understanding.
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
From the BBC ...Sadly, those who seem to have so much difficulty identifying terrorism will be given ample opportunity to refine their understanding.

Desperate times require desperate measures.

We may be able to define terrorism, but much of what we discuss about it is still purely subjective. I have a big problem with the current political association of Muslims to terrorism. It is propaganda.
 
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