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Elijah

Colt

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Real Religious Fanaticism is to Escape Sin in Worship and Return to Elohim/God. It appears you have not watched the "The Republic of King Jesus - Professor Alec Ryrie" video and that you cannot learn from others. @2ndpillar is another member, it appears, that cannot learn anything from others because they Deludedly believe they have all the answers.


You sound like Sigmund Freud. Do you believe in his teachings? The first paragraph you wrote is the stuff that Freud teaches.


Sigmund Freud

Sigmund Freud (/frɔɪd/ FROYD,[2] German: [ˈziːkmʊnt ˈfʁɔʏt]; born Sigismund Schlomo Freud; 6 May 1856 – 23 September 1939) was an Austrian neurologist and the founder of psychoanalysis, a clinical method for evaluating and treating pathologies seen as originating from conflicts in the psyche, through dialogue between patient and psychoanalyst,[3] and the distinctive theory of mind and human agency derived from it.

You are simply projecting your own flaws onto me!

Psychological projection

Psychological projection is a defence mechanism of alterity concerning "inside" content mistaken to be coming from the "outside" Other.[1] It forms the basis of empathy by the projection of personal experiences to understand someone else's subjective world.[1] In its malignant forms, it is a defense mechanism in which the ego defends itself against disowned and highly negative parts of the self by denying their existence in themselves and attributing them to others, breeding misunderstanding and causing untold interpersonal damage.[2] A bully may project their own feelings of vulnerability onto the target, or a person who is confused may project feelings of confusion and inadequacy onto other people. Projection incorporates blame shifting and can manifest as shame dumping.[3] Projection has been described as an early phase of introjection.[4]

Jesus of Nazareth was the worlds most religious person, But, he wasn't a wild eyed religious fanatic! 12 common Jewish men would have never chosen Jesus if he was a freak! He was a man among men who worked, loved played! Not an ascetic. Each day was a day to love and serve others as the Father loves.

Jesus was ultimately killed by self-obsessed religious fanatics who hated his Liberal teachings.
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
Just one question. Have you not sinned? and since you been in Christ Jesus have you sinned at anytime? yes or no.

101G.
This is not about me. It is about the persons who you claim to be of the "elect". If one sins, they must repent, which means to cease to sin, and produce good fruit in line with that repentance (Mt 3:8-10) or look forward to being cast into the fire. Otherwise, the individual making false claims is cut off from God, and becomes one of the lawless Progressive woke people you see on TV, whose leaders are Biden, Harris, Pelosi, and the Chicago mayor, the least cognitive persons on this earth. But hold on to your "plagues" (Rev 18:4) and pay the Jewish doctors and lawyers for your missteps and try to regain your health through your wallet.

Matthew 3:8“Therefore bear fruit in keeping with repentance; 9and do not suppose that you can say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham for our father’; for I say to you that from these stones God is able to raise up children to Abraham. 10“The axe is already laid at the root of the trees; therefore every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
Jesus of Nazareth was the worlds most religious person, But, he wasn't a wild eyed religious fanatic! 12 common Jewish men would have never chosen Jesus if he was a freak! He was a man among men who worked, loved played! Not an ascetic. Each day was a day to love and serve others as the Father loves.

Jesus was ultimately killed by self-obsessed religious fanatics who hated his Liberal teachings.
Yeshua taught that if you want to be "religious", then visit widows and orphans. He targeted the hypocritical religious Pharisees and Sadducees. His first run in with potential death was with Herod, who tried to kill him to prevent him being king per rumors taken from the 3 astrologers from the East. According to what is written, he was killed by the Romans and labeled king of the Jews, and this was done for political purposes, based on a request from the high priest Ananias, which was done according to what is written to apparently "fulfill prophecy". Apparently, Peter followed Yeshua for what he could get out of the deal, according to Matthew 19:27.

NASB 1995 Matthew 19:27
Then Peter said to Him, “Behold, we have left everything and followed You; what then will there be for us?”
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
The kingdom of heaven was established 2000 years ago when the Son was on the earth.
According to Hitler, the 3rd Reich, the 1000 year kingdom of heaven, was established in 1933. Different people have different timelines, but they generally, like with the timeline and implementation of Marx, end with death and destruction. Your timeline has encapsulated 2000 years of death and destruction as well.
 

101G

Well-Known Member
This is not about me. It is about the persons who you claim to be of the "elect". If one sins, they must repent, which means to cease to sin, and produce good fruit in line with that repentance (Mt 3:8-10) or look forward to being cast into the fire. Otherwise, the individual making false claims is cut off from God, and becomes one of the lawless Progressive woke people you see on TV, whose leaders are Biden, Harris, Pelosi, and the Chicago mayor, the least cognitive persons on this earth. But hold on to your "plagues" (Rev 18:4) and pay the Jewish doctors and lawyers for your missteps and try to regain your health through your wallet.

Matthew 3:8“Therefore bear fruit in keeping with repentance; 9and do not suppose that you can say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham for our father’; for I say to you that from these stones God is able to raise up children to Abraham. 10“The axe is already laid at the root of the trees; therefore every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
LOL, LOL, LOL. let's put an end to this now. you're inn a flesh body ... right, 1 John 1:8 "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us."

Good Day.

101G.
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
LOL, LOL, LOL. let's put an end to this now. you're inn a flesh body ... right, 1 John 1:8 "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us."

Good Day.

101G.
You are kind of pushing a false narrative, which would be like "bearing a false witness". A knowingly transgression of the Law, which would be a continuation of sin of a confessed sinner. What did the friend of your false prophet say about knowingly continuing to sin? (Hebrew 10:26) I don't know, but it seems you are between a rock and a hard place.

NASB 1995 Hebrew 10:26
For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
 

Redemptionsong

Well-Known Member
let's get it RIGHT. he, Jesus, as Father, Spirit, the Ordinal First, he prepared a body for himself to come in as the Ordinal Last in the Equal
Share of the ECHAD, as the Son.


who believe that?

that's your IGNORANT Choice.

that's their belief.

yes, one ECHAD... ;) YIKES!


in the ECHAD.

101G.
The 'echad' is the oneness of God, and does not include flesh, of which Jesus was made. It is, therefore, wrong to say that Jesus is part of the 'echad'.

The trinity, 'Father-Son-Holy Spirit', or 'Father-Word-Holy Spirit', does not take into account the flesh. Mary gave birth to Jesus, a human baby. She was not the mother of God.

So you believe that Mary was the mother of God?
 

101G

Well-Known Member
You are kind of pushing a false narrative, which would be like "bearing a false witness". A knowingly transgression of the Law, which would be a continuation of sin of a confessed sinner. What did the friend of your false prophet say about knowingly continuing to sin? (Hebrew 10:26) I don't know, but it seems you are between a rock and a hard place.

NASB 1995 Hebrew 10:26
For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
that's right, NO, NO, NO, more this happens. Hebrews 12:7 "If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?" Hebrews 12:8 "But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye ********, and not sons."


so 1 John 1:8 still stands/ "If YOU say that YOU have no sin, YOU deceive yourself, and the truth is not in YOU."... (smile)

101G
 

101G

Well-Known Member
The 'echad' is the oneness of God, and does not include flesh, of which Jesus was made.
Not made... came in. and YES, flesh to contain the spirit that came into it. God's OWN ... "ARM" ...of Flesh..
The trinity, 'Father-Son-Holy Spirit', or 'Father-Word-Holy Spirit', does not take into account the flesh. Mary gave birth to Jesus, a human baby. She was not the mother of God.
ERROR, listen and Learn, Revelation 22:3 "And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:" Revelation 22:4 "And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads."

his face, and not their faces.
So you believe that Mary was the mother of God?
no, but the surrogate mother to the flesh that God came in. .... (Smile)

101G.
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
that's right, NO, NO, NO, more this happens. Hebrews 12:7 "If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?" Hebrews 12:8 "But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye ********, and not sons."


so 1 John 1:8 still stands/ "If YOU say that YOU have no sin, YOU deceive yourself, and the truth is not in YOU."... (smile)

101G
The consequence of sin is death (Jeremiah 30:31). I will die, whereas you think you will not "sleep"/die, because you follow your false prophet Paul. and his father, the "serpent"/"devil", who says you surely shall not die (Genesis 3:4). Well, Paul is dead and buried, supposedly in Rome, along with all of his contemporary followers. You will follow his path eventually (Mt 7:13), and eventually find yourself in Sheol with the worms. Your unknown author of Hebrews, will have the same company. If you are being "chastened", it might be a good idea to find out why. Why did "Satan" chastise Paul with a thorn in the side?
 

101G

Well-Known Member
The consequence of sin is death
NOT IN CHRIST JESUS, this is why he died once.... to DIE NO MORE. ... Hello. this is why Baptism is so important, because we're buried. With him in baptism. and rose in NEWNESS of LIFE.

I will die, whereas you think you will not "sleep"/die, because you follow your false prophet Paul. and his father, the "serpent"/"devil", who says you surely shall not die (Genesis 3:4). Well, Paul is dead and buried, supposedly in Rome, along with all of his contemporary followers.
Are you sure? or is this your personal Opinion ..... YIKES! what if the Lord Jesus returns today, this evening..... will you sleep? your answer please

did not Moses die, and yet had a conversation with the Lord and Elijah on a mountain top. so, U die, Oh My. U, or your body, which one?

101G.
 

Redemptionsong

Well-Known Member
Not made... came in. and YES, flesh to contain the spirit that came into it. God's OWN ... "ARM" ...of Flesh..

ERROR, listen and Learn, Revelation 22:3 "And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:" Revelation 22:4 "And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads."

his face, and not their faces.

no, but the surrogate mother to the flesh that God came in. .... (Smile)

101G.
God is Spirit, and has no actual face. The face, countenance, or image of God, is the human form in which God dwelt. [John 1:14]

'Listen and learn'! John 1:18.'No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.'

You claim to believe the scriptures, but choose to ignore the countless times that Mary is called 'his mother', or his siblings his 'brethren'!

Matthew 12:46,47. 'While he yet talked to the people, behold his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.
Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and they brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.'

When Elizabeth spoke to Mary about her conception, she said, 'And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?' [Luke 1:43]

Was Mary the mother of the Lord? Yes. Was Mary the mother of Jesus? Yes. Was Mary the mother of God? No.

To untangle this mystery, there is only one satisfactory answer, and that is the orthodox Christian answer. Jesus Christ was fully man and fully God. Mary was the mother of his humanity (blood line) but not his Spirit.
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
NOT IN CHRIST JESUS, this is why he died once.... to DIE NO MORE. ... Hello. this is why Baptism is so important, because we're buried. With him in baptism. and rose in NEWNESS of LIFE.
No, when you die, hopefully they can find your body before the birds get it, and bury it (Jeremiah 31:30), for "everyone will die" per the "Word of God". Per Yeshua, if you believe and die, you shall live again, which is to say, those who die have a chance to "live again", not that they won't die, for the Word of God says that "everyone will die for their own iniquity". As you apparently don't "believe" in the "Word of God" (Rev 19:13), then apparently, you will remain in the grave until the white throne judgment, with respect to what Yeshua says in Rev 20:4 & 12.

ASV John 11:25
Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth on me, though he die, yet shall he live;
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
Are you sure? or is this your personal Opinion ..... YIKES! what if the Lord Jesus returns today, this evening..... will you sleep? your answer please

did not Moses die, and yet had a conversation with the Lord and Elijah on a mountain top. so, U die, Oh My. U, or your body, which one?
Everyone dies (Jeremiah 31:30). If I "survive" (Joel 2:31-32) the "day of the LORD" then I will die supposedly after 100 years of age (Isaiah 65:20). As for Moses, apparently, he was buried by God himself per Deut 34, which is to say, his body died and was buried, yet his spirit returned to God, and he was but an apparition.

NASB 1995 Isaiah 65:20
“No longer will there be in it an infant who lives but a few days, Or an old man who does not live out his days; For the youth will die at the age of one hundred And the one who does not reach the age of one hundred Will be thought accursed.
 

101G

Well-Known Member
God is Spirit, and has no actual face.
who told you that ERROR? here, better known as a lie. think, where do you believe Adam the First man got his face... back, legs... ect ... FROM?
My God, understand, Adam/Man is the IMAGE of God..... let that sink in for a second. ...good, now, question, "cand an IMAGE exist without a source? ..... Think....... now you have your answer.

now to back this up, Isaiah 46:10 "Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:"

we're in the end times now, question, do God have a Glorified body .... "NOW?" yes, Isaiah 46:10a "Declaring the end from the beginning".

got it now? the "END" ... FROM ..... the "BRGINNING". Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness". where is this? ... yes, at the Beginning...... Oh man, o man... this is just too easy.

so now we see where the IMAGE of God came from...... in the END TIMES. :cool:

101G.
 

101G

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No, when you die, hopefully they can find your body before the birds get it, and bury it (Jeremiah 31:30), for "everyone will die" per the "Word of God".
who told you that? some man? thought so. listen and Learn, Hebrews 9:27 "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:" is that EVERY MAN? well what about those who are alive when the Lord returns? let's check thew record. 1 Corinthians 15:51 "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed," 1 Corinthians 15:52 "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed."

hold the press, say WHAT!... "We shall not all sleep", but said, "for everyone will die" per the "Word of God". see how lies get started. it is appointed unto men once to die, THAT'S BEFORE THE LORD JESUS RETURN. now one more witness to this,

1 Thessalonians 4:15 "For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep." 1 Thessalonians 4:16 "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:"

BINGO, there it is, "that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord". and the apostle said, "For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord" now you might want to retrack your statement. as said, we all make mistakes, no problem. we're not God, who is completely PERFECT, no errors. to be Human is to ERROR. and we're Human. so just make a note of this for future references.

101G.
 

101G

Well-Known Member
Everyone dies (Jeremiah 31:30). If I "survive" (Joel 2:31-32) the "day of the LORD" then I will die supposedly after 100 years of age (Isaiah 65:20). As for Moses, apparently, he was buried by God himself per Deut 34, which is to say, his body died and was buried, yet his spirit returned to God, and he was but an apparition.

NASB 1995 Isaiah 65:20
“No longer will there be in it an infant who lives but a few days, Or an old man who does not live out his days; For the youth will die at the age of one hundred And the one who does not reach the age of one hundred Will be thought accursed.
see above.

but Jeremiah 31:30 "But every one shall die for his own iniquity: every man that eateth the sour grape, his teeth shall be set on edge."
understand, the Lord Jesus has tasted death for all of US. he has eaten up (so to speak... Smile) all the sour grapes. this is why we have a NEW VINE that is binding, a choice vine...../

101G.
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
see above.

but Jeremiah 31:30 "But every one shall die for his own iniquity: every man that eateth the sour grape, his teeth shall be set on edge."
understand, the Lord Jesus has tasted death for all of US. he has eaten up (so to speak... Smile) all the sour grapes. this is why we have a NEW VINE that is binding, a choice vine...../

101G.
Tell that to your false prophet Paul, who served and drank the same Kool Aid you are selling, and he died and was buried. As for any vine, Yeshua said, if it doesn't bear "good fruit", it will be cut down and thrown into the fire (Mt 3:10). And Yeshua would not drink the new wine until his disciples were "in My Father's kingdom", which occurs "immediately after the tribulation" (Mt 24:29-30), after the "many" who followed the "false prophets" already met their "destruction" (Mt 7:13-15).
 
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