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A fantastic Kabbalah site

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Truthseeker5

Member
Beleiving a Jew has the only way to God or the only way with qabbalah is ridiculous...

But good luck...as a Jew that wasnt raised a JEw...GOOD luck,,,,you will NEED it!
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DIDN'T I SAY TO YOU THAT A JEW IS A JEW IF HE WANTS TO RETURN TO THE CREATOR ? I AM NOT TALIKNG ABOUT A JEW IN THE PHYSICAL SENSE OF THE WORD. IT DOESN'T MATTTER IF YOU WERE BORN IN GRAPE STREET, WATTS, LA, THE SLUMS OF RIO DE JANEIRO OR THE MOST ECLUSIVE DISTRICT OF MANHATTAN. IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK TO THE CREATOR THN YOU ARE A JEW.
 
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Truthseeker5

Member
last but not least Kabbalah isn't magic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you want that go to the Wiccans or the Voodoist or any other people you care to mention.
Kabbalah is not the occult. IT IS A SCIENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!! I REPEAT IT IS A SCIENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
 
Runt

Runt

Well-Known Member
Wow... I have never encountered a non-Christian fundamentalist... odd experience.

If Kabbalah is a science then why are you discussing it on a religious discussion board?
 
Runt

Runt

Well-Known Member
Truthseeker:

Try to see the world through the eyes of others. You have been blinded by dogma. All paths lead to the same place. We will all get there in our own time. Don't make the mistake of believing you have discovered the ultimate truth. If it were that easy, EVERYONE would already be with God. It is a lifelong search to find Truth, and I suspect you are young yet. Give it time and study before you make the mistake of telling others what is Truth and what are lies.
 
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Master Hoomer

Member
magic: controlled use of imagination (RJ STEWART)

magic: from the word magister..to "master"...to become the highest spiritual potential of an initiated individual (WG GRAY)

Science IS magic...
Kabbalah IS magic.....


Judaic kabbalah is not the only "genuine" kabbalism...
I do not touch alesteir crowley...he was a great man...but I dont touch him...for various reasons.....

Spread the word? I have no need to "spread the word" and teach others...GOD will open the eyes of those who want to see.....God will make it known to those who feel and NEED.......forcing God upon another to me is WRONG.....because it does NOT work.....

A closed mind will only open when it WANTS to...
A man will only SEE God...when he WANTS to SEE God.....

Summa Scientia Nihil Scire (the height of knowledge is to know nothing)-- christian rosen Kreutz

:wink: (to runt)
 
Green Gaia

Green Gaia

Veteran Member
Truthseeker: Why is it necessary for you to put down the beliefs of others in order to build up your own? Do you think that if you were to acknowledge other ways as being equally valid that would negate your own beliefs?
 
Green Gaia

Green Gaia

Veteran Member
NOT that I know you will be interested...as you ONLY seem to be here to FORCE your beliefs down other's throats.....

Ahhh... was that directed at me or Truthseeker? :shock:




Thanks for the link, it was very interesting. :)
 
Rex

Rex

Founder
Runt said:
Wow... I have never encountered a non-Christian fundamentalist... odd experience.

If Kabbalah is a science then why are you discussing it on a religious discussion board?
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We define religion as any specific system of belief and/or/without worship, often involving a code of ethics and a philosophy.
 
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inca

Active Member
What is a metaphor? We're too accostumed to think in symbols or archetypes, yet these things hide real events and several layers one inside the other. When an Egyptian papire (called Ipuwer) names the literal plagues of Egypt that can't be labled "metaphor". About history:
www.wyattmuseum.com/red-sea-crossing-04.htm
www.wyattmuseum.com/red-sea-crossing-05.htm
www.anchorstone.com/images/wheels1.jpg
www.anchorstone.com/images/chariotwheel.gif
www.anchorstone.com/number3.html
www.wyattmuseum.com/sinai-05.htm
www.wyattmuseum.com/images/wpe4A.jpg
www.pibburns.com/smelaris.htm
 
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Master Hoomer

Member
What is a metaphor? We're too accostumed to think in symbols or archetypes,

Archetypes are much more than symbols...they are blue prints..IGNORE what Jung said...he changed the meaning...archetypes are really "blue prints"

An original model or type after which other similar things are patterned; a prototype: “‘Frankenstein’... ‘Dracula’... ‘Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde’... the archetypes that have influenced all subsequent horror stories” (New York Times).

archetype

\Ar"che*type\ ([aum]r"k[-e]*t[imac]p), n. [L. archetypum, Gr. 'arche`typon, fr. 'arche`typos stamped first and as model; 'arche = 'archi + ty`pos stamp, figure, pattern, ty`ptein to strike: cf. F. arch['e]type. See Arch-, pref.] 1. The original pattern or model of a work; or the model from which a thing is made or formed.

Much MORE than a symbol
 
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inca

Active Member
I agree they are much more than symbols but that's precisely my point, physic is reaching a point where models get lost in invisible hyperdimensional realms. What we think is daily "consciousness" is a pale shadow of the hollographic universal matrix.
 
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Master Hoomer

Member
What is a metaphor? We're too accostumed to think in symbols or archetypes,

Archetypes are much more than symbols...they are blue prints..IGNORE what Jung said...he changed the meaning...archetypes are really "blue prints"

An original model or type after which other similar things are patterned; a prototype: “‘Frankenstein’... ‘Dracula’... ‘Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde’... the archetypes that have influenced all subsequent horror stories” (New York Times).

archetype

\Ar"che*type\ ([aum]r"k[-e]*t[imac]p), n. [L. archetypum, Gr. 'arche`typon, fr. 'arche`typos stamped first and as model; 'arche = 'archi + ty`pos stamp, figure, pattern, ty`ptein to strike: cf. F. arch['e]type. See Arch-, pref.] 1. The original pattern or model of a work; or the model from which a thing is made or formed.

Much MORE than a symbol
 
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inca

Active Member
I agree they are much more than symbols but that's precisely my point, physic is reaching a point where models get lost in invisible hyperdimensional realms. What we think is daily "consciousness" is a pale shadow of the hollographic universal matrix.
 
Gilad

Gilad

New Member
Truthseeker

I think that alot of what you are saying is correct. Tarot, astrology etc is not the correct path of Kabbalah. True Kabbalah is based on Love and humility these other ways are based on power and ego. Kabbalah is the Way of the Heart (Leb) and the 13 aspects of Chesed. The Kabbalah originally was not studied in groups however but by whispering from one to another. You are also right it is about personal relationship with Hashem and the life of holiness and sanctity - it is the Way and Life of Torah not of occult manipulation of forces for the vanity and power of control over others. The Tanak states that astrology is for the Goyim not for Israelites we trust and have faith in Divine Providence. Spiritualism and occultism in Kabbalah leads one to the Sitra Ahra and spiritual death for the soul.
 
Gilad

Gilad

New Member
Truthseeker

I think that alot of what you are saying is correct. Tarot, astrology etc is not the correct path of Kabbalah. True Kabbalah is based on Love and humility these other ways are based on power and ego. Kabbalah is the Way of the Heart (Leb) and the 13 aspects of Chesed. The Kabbalah originally was not studied in groups however but by whispering from one to another. You are also right it is about personal relationship with Hashem and the life of holiness and sanctity - it is the Way and Life of Torah not of occult manipulation of forces for the vanity and power of control over others. The Tanak states that astrology is for the Goyim not for Israelites we trust and have faith in Divine Providence. Spiritualism and occultism in Kabbalah leads one to the Sitra Ahra and spiritual death for the soul.
 
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