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Evolution

We Never Know

No Slack
Just because..(I'm being nice)

Evolution; is the process in which populations (or gene pools ) evolve as gene frequencies change; individual organisms cannot evolve. Variation in populations is determined by the genes present in the population's gene pool, which may be directly altered by mutation

So if there is no offspring produced because of being gay, transgender, or whatever...

There is no
-contribution to the gene pool
-contribution to evolution
-envolvenent in the evolution of humans.

This may sound like I am being a prick, but its fact.

But I'm labeled cis for doing all the above. Which according to science is natural.
Honestly speaking from several I know, labeling us is where you lost some support. You can be trans, gay, unidentified, etc... But you dragged us into your world when you labeled us.
 
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JDMS

Academic Workhorse
How does evolution relate to the labels trans or cis? Again, trans-cis labels are just descriptors used to describe phenomena all the time. Both in biology, chemistry, and colloquial language (in the case of cisgender and transgender). Cis and trans are simply Latin prefixes. I could use it to describe the sides of a cube, the orientation of a molecule, etc.

If I had to guess, you're only ever called a "cis man" in discussions that apply. If you do not like hearing the word "cis" used to describe yourself, then why do you insist on starting so many threads related to gender issues? When you do so, you are deliberately putting yourself in that position.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Just because..(I'm being nice)

Evolution; is the process in which populations (or gene pools ) evolve as gene frequencies change; individual organisms cannot evolve. Variation in populations is determined by the genes present in the population's gene pool, which may be directly altered by mutation

So if there is no offspring produced because of being gay, transgender, or whatever...

There is no
-contribution to the gene pool
-contribution to evolution
-envolvenent in the evolution of humans.

This may sound like I am being a prick, but its fact.

But I'm labeled cis for doing all the above. Which according to science is natural.
Historically many gay people ended up getting married due to social pressure, and having kids. My friend Jim is gay and when he was younger many years ago he got married because that is what was exvected of him. He had a daughter and ended up getting divorced and married to a man. His daughter is gay as well. Let's note that genes can be part of a genetic code but not expressed in all members. For example two black cats can mate and have a siamese kitten. Or shorthair cats can have long hair cats. Genes can carry on without being expressed in the parents.
 
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JDMS

Academic Workhorse
Historically many gay people neded up getting married due to social pressure, and having kids. My friend Jim is gay and when he was younger many years ago he got married because that is what was exvected of him. He had a daughter and ended up getting divorced and married to a man. His daughter is gay as well. Let's note that genes can be part of a genetic code but not expressed in all members.

Not to mention that many late-transitioners already have children when they transition, and in addition, there are trans people who choose to save sperm or eggs before transition, as well as those who choose to have children using their natal anatomy.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Historically many gay people neded up getting married due to social pressure, and having kids. My friend Jim is gay and when he was younger many years ago he got married because that is what was exvected of him. He had a daughter and ended up getting divorced and married to a man. His daughter is gay as well. Let's note that genes can be part of a genetic code but not expressed in all members.

Historically being key there. Not so much anymore.
In the past many gays lived in the closet,married and has kids. Not so much any more.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Not to mention that many late-transitioners already have children when they transition, and in addition, there are trans people who choose to save sperm or eggs before transition, as well as those who choose to have children using their natal anatomy.

And again that's Historically
 

We Never Know

No Slack
I was about to link you to a group with 4,000 members for trans men who are carrying babies to term, but on second thought, I will not do so. I don't think you'd browse that group with good faith.

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We Never Know

No Slack
I was about to link you to a group with 4,000 members for trans men who are carrying babies to term, but on second thought, I will not do so. I don't think you'd browse that group with good faith.

Transmen carrying babies are females.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Just because..(I'm being nice)

Evolution; is the process in which populations (or gene pools ) evolve as gene frequencies change; individual organisms cannot evolve. Variation in populations is determined by the genes present in the population's gene pool, which may be directly altered by mutation

So if there is no offspring produced because of being gay, transgender, or whatever...

There is no
-contribution to the gene pool
-contribution to evolution
-envolvenent in the evolution of humans.

This may sound like I am being a prick, but its fact.

But I'm labeled cis for doing all the above. Which according to science is natural.
Honestly speaking from several I know, labeling us is where you lost some support. You can be trans, gay, unidentified, etc... But you dragged us into your world when you labeled us.
Not necessarily.
Gay populations can benefit the community.
The idea that communities reproduce and nothing else is actually a gross oversimplification of the evolutionary process.
Having a portion of the population not reproduce can actually be an evolutionary benefit. Through a number of ways. Curbing overpopulation, providing extra “back ups” of parents able to raise and protect the offspring if the parents are killed and other ways.
We see this in nature even
It’s why actual biologists laugh when folks try to claim gay people go against evolution
Such folks are always like
“umm no, they benefit the process in the long run. Actually learn biology properly my guy lol”
 

Viker

Häxan
Since when is contributing to the gene pool necessary for any validation? Plenty contribute already. There's no threat whatsoever that there being an LBGTQ community that there will be no more evolutionary process or no more human production. There are plenty of people who contribute to the gene pool who really should never do so.

Really, what is the point of all of this tonight?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Just because..(I'm being nice)

Evolution; is the process in which populations (or gene pools ) evolve as gene frequencies change; individual organisms cannot evolve. Variation in populations is determined by the genes present in the population's gene pool, which may be directly altered by mutation

So if there is no offspring produced because of being gay, transgender, or whatever...

There is no
-contribution to the gene pool
-contribution to evolution
-envolvenent in the evolution of humans.

This may sound like I am being a prick, but its fact.

But I'm labeled cis for doing all the above. Which according to science is natural.
Honestly speaking from several I know, labeling us is where you lost some support. You can be trans, gay, unidentified, etc... But you dragged us into your world when you labeled us.
Just confirm to us you aren't even trying to learn.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Since when is contributing to the gene pool necessary for any validation? Plenty contribute already. There's no threat whatsoever that there being an LBGTQ community that there will be no more evolutionary process or no more human production. There are plenty of people who contribute to the gene pool who really should never do so.

Really, what is the point of all of this tonight?
He's upset the term cis sometimes gets used and wants it to go away.
This thread will help.
Utah becomes first state in 2023 to ban gender-affirming care for transgender minors
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Science says natural one species always owns it first two pairs in species. As self reproduction.

In man's thought his penis fitted in the emptiness of the females body.

So his memory about sex is a variation to the status of personal scientific studies.

That idea is one completed human.

It's not.

Science says the mind lies. Data evidence didn't.

So science a man human was not theorising. Was just using genesis data. Stated beyond doubt.

Law in nature is the typified genesis of the body one genesis within.

Self owned.
Self present.

I have to SEE it. It's not a thesis.

So it's not evolution of the species.

It's one self owned.

As you cannot theorise against presence. The gift of life or now.

A human isn't one base cell. We are varied organ tissues body genesis whole typified to be species the human.

Genesis was humans medical advice.

It was never occult science being alchemic conversion by a human.

So when a man brought forward out of space pressure a metal to build a machine. He claimed he had transcended laws.

As he got it from dusts. Yet the sun had caused earths body mass conversion to the dust.

The humans only I practice science as a biological human said a human theist owns no argument. Had to make it legal.

No man is God meant no human theist invented presence.

Therefore when two separate conscious species exists. They do in law.

If one decided the man to theory on behalf of two humans when he wasn't two humans. Is obviously how conscious human lost ownership of self identity.

As first position no man is science. He's human. In adult law his father's image. God within human adult man grown from baby son man.

Living inside ghost host gas heavens his idea other father type a spirit protection. But not my actual father.

Laws.

So the typified God terms were never ever a theory.

About bio life.

As your document does not speak on behalf of women it's why man with science is wrong.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member

What a limited view based on the assumption that just because two people have a child that is automatically and necessarily contributing to the gene pool. They could be passing along genetic illnesses. And the people who don't have kids (whether gay, straight or whatever) could be doing more for the gene pool than biological parents,

So, yet another strawman attack on non-straights.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
What a limited view based on the assumption that just because two people have a child that is automatically and necessarily contributing to the gene pool. They could be passing along genetic illnesses. And the people who don't have kids (whether gay, straight or whatever) could be doing more for the gene pool than biological parents,

So, yet another strawman attack on non-straights.

:facepalm:

If you don't contrite to the gene pool....you don't contribute to future humans. Its that simple.

What confused you?
 

Viker

Häxan
:facepalm:

If you don't contrite to the gene pool....you don't contribute to future humans. Its that simple.

What confused you?
Nearly everything we do contributes to the future of humanity. Art, politics, technology, simple things like how we're treating others now. I have relatives who have contributed our family line, my sister, cousins. Why should I have to contribute seed/egg or whatever? I can leave a legacy...no matter what it is. Humanity doesn't need or require me for it's continuity.
 
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