101G
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a hoot for a toot ..... (smile)....Yes, it was a hoot!
101G.
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a hoot for a toot ..... (smile)....Yes, it was a hoot!
so, again we can this as you have no answer at all to Genesis 3:16? thought so,No, logic and reason. Two traits that as of yet have been absent from your posts.
That has been answered. It is simply a small part of the Abrahamic creation myth. It has nothing to do with reality. It is only an attempt by iron age sheep herders to explain the world around them.so, again we can this as you have no answer at all to Genesis 3:16? thought so,
Good day.
101G.
It raises other questions too if I recall correctly (its been a while since I read the story admittedly).@101G,
Ok, here's another one.
So, Adam and Eve are in the garden making babies before the episode with the serpent. Cain is afraid of "all who find me". That's more than one. Should be a whole crowd of people, right? Otherwise, why the fear? It's a big world. No reason to fear if it only has a few inhabitants. That would mean a good healthy chunk of time has passed in the garden. Question...
During that whole time, not Adam, not Eve, not any of their offspring ate from the Tree of Life?
I believe speed and acceleration are not the same, that is a mistake on your part.NOW THINK PEOPLE, can mr, Doe at the STARTING LINE A. INCREASE his speed (acceleration)..... which is ZERO, or B, as accelerate states undergo a change in velocity? which one, answer, B.
If you are trying to say that for Eve's pregnancy to be multiplied in a manner that would result in pregnancy i agree that it would imply she had already been pregnant (if the story were true to begin with)so, what have we LEARNED, one cannot INCREASE their Walk unless they are WALKING, and not STANDING STILL....... hello,
First thanks for the reply. second, God is presenting it.Here's the series as I understand you are presenting it:
Day 1: Light and Darkness created
yes, the atmospheres was created.Day 2: Heaven and Firmament created
Correction, water was gathered on the SURFACE of the planet. then after dry land, MAN, then the Plants, (the grass, herbs, and the trees).Day 3: Water is gathered, dry land appears, grass and plants are created
... And there was a mist
... And Adam was formed
... And God planted a garden
... And God put Adam in the garden
no, the sun and the moon was CREATED on Day one but did not SHINE, reflect respectively until day Four. understand?Day 4: Sun moon and stars are created
yes, water, and Air animals.Day 5: Fish and Birds created
Land animals was made day six, now if it was in the Garden or outside the Garden when God Formed the Land animals, the Bible do not Say, neither will 101G, but this is what the bible say. Genesis 2:18 "And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him." Genesis 2:19 "And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof."Day 6: Bugs, Beasts, masculine and feminine created
... This is happening in the garden, that's when Eve was built by Adam
... The animals were formed in the garden
ERROR, the Woman was Formed, (build, as you say), by God, and not by Adam, because Adam was asleep, when God formed the woman.This is happening in the garden, that's when Eve was built by Adam
LOL, LOL, LOL, YES ........Day 7: *Sigh of relief*
understand, God already had NATURAL LAWS in effect before to 10 commandants and the Law for Israe came into existence. God was Teaching man how to LIVE FROM DAY ONE ON THIS PLANTE. only the@101G,
Ok, here's another one.
So, Adam and Eve are in the garden making babies before the episode with the serpent. Cain is afraid of "all who find me". That's more than one. Should be a whole crowd of people, right? Otherwise, why the fear? It's a big world. No reason to fear if it only has a few inhabitants. That would mean a good healthy chunk of time has passed in the garden. Question...
During that whole time, not Adam, not Eve, not any of their offspring ate from the Tree of Life?
yes, and the bible do not say how long, as you said before you can play with it..... but a lot of people was born in the Garden. remember the command.... Genesis 1:28 "And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth."That would mean a good healthy chunk of time has passed in the garden.
LISTEN REAL CLOSE to what God did not say, and Later what he did say. Genesis 3:11 "And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?"Question...
During that whole time, not Adam, not Eve, not any of their offspring ate from the Tree of Life?
no on your part.I believe speed and acceleration are not the same, that is a mistake on your part.
here's my point, I can care less if you think that the story is true to u or not as said I'M AFTER the "FACTS", and thanks for confirming the FACTS. she experienced pregnancy in the Garden. that's a SCIENCETIFIC FACT.If you are trying to say that for Eve's pregnancy to be multiplied in a manner that would result in pregnancy i agree that it would imply she had already been pregnant (if the story were true to begin with)
Don't you love it how creationists will use reinterpretation after the fact when it is obvious that there verses that they personally wish were true are shown to be wrong?GINOLJC, to all,
First thanks for the reply. second, God is presenting it.
here in Day 1 Light and Darkness is not Physical light and darkness, but WISDOM/LIGHT, and IGNORANCE/DARKNESS. When God said, "Let there be LIGHT, God was saying KNOWLEDGE and Wisdom come forth, other words God wanted the World to KNOW what he did in CREATION, hence we have the CREATION ACCOUNT
understand, God do not want us IGNORANT of his creation.
also understand the Light in Genesis 1:3 is not Natural Light as in the Fourth Day. if you need a little more understanding on this just let me know .... ok.
yes, the atmospheres was created.
Correction, water was gathered on the SURFACE of the planet. then after dry land, MAN, then the Plants, (the grass, herbs, and the trees).
now 101G will let you in on a secret. when Adam was Formed on Day three, the woman was inside the Man genetically ..... without shape, without form, and without figure, (smile), do you understand this? but was brought forth "FROM" the man on day six into the creation.
no, the sun and the moon was CREATED on Day one but did not SHINE, reflect respectively until day Four. understand?
yes, water, and Air animals.
Land animals was made day six, now if it was in the Garden or outside the Garden when God Formed the Land animals, the Bible do not Say, neither will 101G, but this is what the bible say. Genesis 2:18 "And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him." Genesis 2:19 "And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof."
the bible said, "out of the ground", and this is what 101G is only going to say, "out of the ground".
ERROR, the Woman was Formed, (build, as you say), by God, and not by Adam, because Adam was asleep, when God formed the woman.
LOL, LOL, LOL, YES ........
101G.
First thanks for the reply. second, God is presenting it.
here in Day 1 Light and Darkness is not Physical light and darkness, but WISDOM/LIGHT, and IGNORANCE/DARKNESS. When God said, "Let there be LIGHT, God was saying KNOWLEDGE and Wisdom come forth, other words God wanted the World to KNOW what he did in CREATION, hence we have the CREATION ACCOUNT
understand, God do not want us IGNORANT of his creation.
also understand the Light in Genesis 1:3 is not Natural Light as in the Fourth Day. if you need a little more understanding on this just let me know .... ok.
no, the sun and the moon was CREATED on Day one but did not SHINE, reflect respectively until day Four. understand?
So, basically you're saying, we don't know where the animals were formed, and they were brought to Adam in the garden, and we don't really know when they left, because it doesn't say?Land animals was made day six, now if it was in the Garden or outside the Garden when God Formed the Land animals, the Bible do not Say, neither will 101G, but this is what the bible say. Genesis 2:18 "And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him." Genesis 2:19 "And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof."
Yes, I think it's actually a really important point, which maybe we'll talk about later. "Out of the ground".the bible said, "out of the ground", and this is what 101G is only going to say, "out of the ground".
LOL. I can't believe I typed that. Yes, error on my part. I'm still chuckling about that. I didn't mean *by* Adam, I meant *from* Adam.ERROR, the Woman was Formed, (build, as you say), by God, and not by Adam, because Adam was asleep, when God formed the woman.
OK...understand, God already had NATURAL LAWS in effect before to 10 commandants and the Law for Israe came into existence. God was Teaching man how to LIVE FROM DAY ONE ON THIS PLANTE. only the
prohibition of what and not to eat (disobediences), was essential, in the CREATION STORY, because of the Fall into SIN.
Yes...yes, and the bible do not say how long, as you said before you can play with it..... but a lot of people was born in the Garden. remember the command.... Genesis 1:28 "And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth."
that term "replenish" means "TO FILL" I'm using the Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary of American English for the definition. and notice, God said fill the EARTH, and not judt the Garden, but the EARTH.
Nope, I didn't get it. It seems like you're talking about eating from the tree of knowledge of good-and-evil. Yes, it's a very important point that at least one other had knowledge of good-and-evil in the garden. But, that's a different topic.LISTEN REAL CLOSE to what God did not say, and Later what he did say. Genesis 3:11 "And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?"
now, listen to what he said Later. Genesis 3:22 "And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:"
did you get it?
sound just like u, ,,,,,, (smile)Don't you love it how creationists will use reinterpretation after the fact when it is obvious that there verses that they personally wish were true are shown to be wrong?
what's wrong ...... jealous? because danieldemol finally saw the SCIENCE in the scripture.The problem with only a partial reinterpretation after the fact is that you are left with no excuse for not accepting reality. Time to face facts my friend. You are still a monkey.
sound just like u, ,,,,,, (smile)
what's wrong ...... jealous? because danieldemol finally saw the SCIENCE in the scripture.
101G.
you ok, I got a chuckle also.OL. I can't believe I typed that. Yes, error on my part. I'm still chuckling about that. I didn't mean *by* Adam, I meant *from* Adam.
Genesis 2:22 "And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man."However, if we're focusing on the details of the words. Was Eve "formed"? I don't think so. What does your lexicon say about the first Hebrew word in Gen 2:22? Then maybe compare that to the first word in Gen 2:7? What does the lexicon say? My sources say that Adam was formed, and Eve was built.
they all obeyed until the serpent/the Devil entered the picture. he deceived the woman. now, she ate of the forbidden tree. Genesis 2:16 "And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:" Genesis 2:17 "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."Nope, I didn't get it. It seems like you're talking about eating from the tree of knowledge of good-and-evil. Yes, it's a very important point that at least one other had knowledge of good-and-evil in the garden. But, that's a different topic.
I'm asking about the Tree of Life.
If a long time had passed between Gen 2, and Gen 3, then it seems likely that either Adam, Eve, or one of their offspring would eat from the Tree of Life gaining immortality. No?
There are many misconceptions from man about what was created/Made, When and where, or how many.
let's discuss from the bible these misconceptions.
#1. Man was formed on day 3, before any animals, and was made male and female on day 6.
#2. Adam and Eve had Children.in the Garden of Eden before they had Cain and Able outside the Garden.
#3. There were no pre-Adamic Race.
from these three Truths, all other questions are answered, as to A. Where did Cain get his wife from? B. Who are the son of God in Genesis chapter 6, (and they are not angels) C. Why is Cain not mention in Adam genealogy, since he was supposing to be Adam firstborn ...... son? as well as why Abel is not in Adam genealogy?
by understanding the TRUTH of these three misconceptions above, a correct and truthful understanding of God's creation can be accomplish and held in "Faith" by true believers.
101G
ERROR, they are not syncretic. and he is LYING.This is a good lecture on how Genesis is 2 contradictory stories.
Genesis 1
Earth - watery
creation - 6 days
order - trees, animals, humans
man - created last
domain - the earth
woman - created simultaneously
genesis 2
earth - dusty
creation - one day
order - humans, trees, animals
man - created first
domain - Eden
Woman - rib
He reads both stories as separate stories without changing the words. Sounds a lot like 2 stories were put into the text. He claims they also match the 2 stories in the flood story.
But are you after *all* the facts to gain the most complete picture? Or are you only interested in selecting those facts which cast just enough half light as to appear to prop up a narrative?I'M AFTER the "FACTS"