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God's Creation, and Some Misconceptions

Windwalker

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Premium Member
Except there was no "first day" back then. The Earth was a product of accretion and there is no one day that one could ever point to as when the Earth was done being formed.
The truth be told, the earth is still constantly undergoing change and being formed yet to this today. This whole idea that creation is a past event, doesn't seem to ever look out the window at each new day. It's kind of like thinking the earth is flat, imagining the earth is static.
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
the bible is full of your scientific concepts.
Nope
example,
Genesis 1:14 "And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:" Genesis 1:15 "And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so." Genesis 1:16 "And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also." Genesis 1:17 "And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth," Genesis 1:18 "And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good." Genesis 1:19 "And the evening and the morning were the fourth day."
Do you know what a firmament is?

Did you know that the moon is not a light source but that the stars are? The author of that account obviously didn't.
with these effect of the the sun, what about the moon, and its affects on the earth? 1. tidal effects. but that is only accomplish by the sun shining.
Tidal effects are only there when the sun is shining?
and it’s gravitational or it’s pull in density, or its displacement in space causes this effect.
That part doesn't make any sense, can you rephrase?
now days, what do the bible mean. the bible said, “for days”. so to get a solar day, a. first the spinning of the earth itself. for without this spinning, or rotation, one could not get a 24hr. solar day. b. by this spinning, or rotation of the earth on its axis's, hence we have the scientific term called precession, which causes the seasons.
Nope. Look up precession.
notice the bible said "for seasons". and by its Orbits, the earth, the moon, and the sun, we have signs. and these signs are set by pedigree and Apogee of the earth from the sun.
Look up pedigree. (I guess you mean perigee.)
another scientific term. now signs in the heavens are set which causes eclipse, both of the sun and the moon.
so right in the measure of days, or may I say solar days, we have confirmed scientific terminology of 1. orbit, and in these orbits we have 2. trajectory, which declare signs and wonders. HOW? In the placement of Earth orbit from the sun this is what scientist call pedigree and Apogee. without these set distances, eclipses would not be possible.
Nope. Look up eclipse.
but with said distance we have different phases of the moon and the sun. yes all of this science is right here in the bible. these trajectory of the moon and the sun in their pedigree and Apogee produce what we see as eclipses of both the sun and the moon. again the bible is confirmed by true science.
Also we have the position of the stars, with the movement of the earth and the sun, we have in science what we calls “astronomy” its all there right in the creation account. again, science just put labels on what God have already provided. this is just the tip of the ICEBURG in astronomy, there is much more to learn, but as said, this is a bible study, not a astronomy class, but one can see what God has done.
just some more examples of science in the bible

101G.
There is no science in the bible. You may be fooled into thinking so because you know nothing about science, as you have clearly demonstrated.
So, if you stand by "but as said, this is a bible study, not a astronomy class", you'll concede that your knowledge about science isn't adequate to proclaim that there is science in the bible and you'll ask the mods to move your OP to Scriptural Debates.
Otherwise you'll get more lectures in astronomy than you can shake a stick at.
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
sure, his appearing and disappearing, after his resurrection.
Example. John 20:19 "Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you."

the door was shut, he appeared unto them. in quantum physics, this appearing and disappearing at will is called the collapsing Of the field.

just as he appeared and disappeared. On the Road to Emmaus, just to name a few

101G.
I see. So all magical things said in ancient mythologies are basically taking about quantum mechanics.
And you did not even get quantum part of your claim right here.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I see. So all magical things said in ancient mythologies are basically taking about quantum mechanics.
And you did not even get quantum part of your claim right here.
What are the odds of him getting the quantum mechanics right when he could not even get the Newtonian physics right. Did you know that the Sun orbits the Earth?
 

sayak83

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Staff member
Premium Member
the bible is full of your scientific concepts. example,
Genesis 1:14 "And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:" Genesis 1:15 "And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so." Genesis 1:16 "And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also." Genesis 1:17 "And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth," Genesis 1:18 "And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good." Genesis 1:19 "And the evening and the morning were the fourth day."

with these effect of the the sun, what about the moon, and its affects on the earth? 1. tidal effects. but that is only accomplish by the sun shining. and it’s gravitational or it’s pull in density, or its displacement in space causes this effect. now days, what do the bible mean. the bible said, “for days”. so to get a solar day, a. first the spinning of the earth itself. for without this spinning, or rotation, one could not get a 24hr. solar day. b. by this spinning, or rotation of the earth on its axis's, hence we have the scientific term called precession, which causes the seasons. notice the bible said "for seasons". and by its Orbits, the earth, the moon, and the sun, we have signs. and these signs are set by pedigree and Apogee of the earth from the sun. another scientific term. now signs in the heavens are set which causes eclipse, both of the sun and the moon.
so right in the measure of days, or may I say solar days, we have confirmed scientific terminology of 1. orbit, and in these orbits we have 2. trajectory, which declare signs and wonders. HOW? In the placement of Earth orbit from the sun this is what scientist call pedigree and Apogee. without these set distances, eclipses would not be possible. but with said distance we have different phases of the moon and the sun. yes all of this science is right here in the bible. these trajectory of the moon and the sun in their pedigree and Apogee produce what we see as eclipses of both the sun and the moon. again the bible is confirmed by true science.
Also we have the position of the stars, with the movement of the earth and the sun, we have in science what we calls “astronomy” its all there right in the creation account. again, science just put labels on what God have already provided. this is just the tip of the ICEBURG in astronomy, there is much more to learn, but as said, this is a bible study, not a astronomy class, but one can see what God has done.
just some more examples of science in the bible

101G.
There is NOTHING of what you are claiming in the 2nd and 3rd paragraph (tides, perigee, apogee, orbits whatever) in the quotes you provided in the first paragraph.
Making things up from thin air does not an argument make dear friend.
 

101G

Well-Known Member
I thought that you said that you were game when it came to the picture that I posted.

You were supposed to explain why it does not refute the Flood. You posted a link to a joke site. Are you a man of your word?
GINOLJC, to all,
I did, and the Joke is on you if you cannot comprehend the knowledge in the web site. did you not read the site I gave to show that the Flood was worldwide?

what's wrong, your views have been countered? that's ok, keep on trying.

101G.
 

101G

Well-Known Member
I much prefer the idea of differing conceptions to misconceptions. A misconception is saying to others that you're right, and they got it wrong. It isn't helpful to this world in times of conflict.
thanks for the reply. that's only in the person mind. but God's mind is the only mind that counts.

101G.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
GINOLJC, to all,
I did, and the Joke is on you if you cannot comprehend the knowledge in the web site. did you not read the site I gave to show that the Flood was worldwide?

what's wrong, your views have been countered? that's ok, keep on trying.

101G.
No you didn't. You posted a link to a lying site that is the opposite of scientific.

I posted an image that refuted your Flood myth. You had no answer.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
AROUND? that sounds like a personal Opinion to me, which do not count.

101G.
No, it is a date that has been determined by Biblical scholars. You know, people that actually study the Bible for a living. You should try a bit of studying some day.
 
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