Evil carnivores

[Altfish]

Need an option 5

Flippin' heck, I don't half fancy a bacon butty

 

[Augustus]

If they're still eating meat, isn't the simplest explanation to suggest they knew we didn't have the technology to produce lab-grown meat? They'd still agree to having meat in one's diet, they're not vegetarians, it just doesn't come from living animals. We might see this in the same way we see mass illiteracy prior to the 16th c. - it's not that people thought poor people shouldn't read, but that the technology to produce books en mass simply didn't exist.

Of course some will, but many people don't do that though. When you get sufficiently removed from the time that action X was acceptable, people often don't try to put themselves in the other's shoes.

How many people today look back at medieval siege warfare and think that the slaughter of populations who held out was kind of necessary and thus widely accepted as fair?

 

[Augustus]

Need an option 5

Flippin' heck, I don't half fancy a bacon butty

You get lab grown facon like everyone else

 

[We Never Know]

You get lab grown facon like everyone else

"lab grown facon"

Perfect name for it lol

 

[Quintessence]

What I would vote isn't represented in the poll, so I can't vote in it.

Beyond that, at this time I'd just like to say... WHAT ABOUT THE PLANTS?!

 

[Secret Chief]

I personally don't think we should use anachronistic moral values when evaluating the past, but in the scenario eating meat would be something similar to slavery in terms of how it is viewed and terms would reflect this.

Don't tempt me!

 

[Secret Chief]

Maybe they will realize some folk in this time period couldn't go vegetarian either due to disability or money

If I happen to notice the price of meat I can't see it's cheaper to eat meat.

What are you meaning regarding disability?

 

[Secret Chief]

it's not that people thought poor people shouldn't read,

Actually I think that certain politicians of a certain persuasion very much want an uneducated and uncritical population.

 

[Shaul]

I would have a clandestine, underground meat farm - au natural.

A 100 year old man selling his meat au natural doesn't paint a pretty picture.

 

[Secret Chief]

A 100 year old man selling his meat au natural doesn't paint a pretty picture.

Does he mean he's naked?

 

[VoidCat]

If I happen to notice the price of meat I can't see it's cheaper to eat meat.

What are you meaning regarding disability?

Some disabilities wont allow you to go vegatarian or vegan. Such as Avoidant restrictive food intake disorder(ARFID)

That is an eating disorder that the person has very few types of foods they comfortable eating usually due to sensory issues. They may eat as little as 10 different types of food. A person like that can die from lack of nutrients and needs therapy to be able to eat other foods outside their comfort zone. If one of the few foods they eat is meat it would be foolish to have them abandon that food causing them to have less nutritional needs met. Legit the disorder can cause folk to have symptoms similar to anorexia due to malnutrition. It would not be good to restrict their already restrictive diet while in therapy.

 

[Twilight Hue]

The scenario specifically states all meat is lab grown so it is still eaten, just not from slaughtered animals.

It would solve a lot of issues , feed more people, and is easy on land conservation.

 

[VoidCat]

@Secret Chief
I found an article on veganism and disability why some can't go vegan. It does say veganism is cheaper so maybe i was wrong on it being more expensive i dont know but it also might depend on where you are too. Here is what some disabled folk said as their reasoning for not going vegan:

• For many recipes there is a lot of prep, so it makes it difficult at times.”

• “My diet is limited by what I have the energy to prepare, eat and tidy.”

• “I have ME and IBS, so it takes immense amounts of energy to cook. And I cook for a family who probably wouldn’t want to go vegan, so it would mean cooking twice.”

• “I have CFS (Chronic Fatigue Syndrome) – I don’t have the money to buy vegan ready meals that I can depend on when I regularly can’t cook or prepare a meal from scratch.”

• “I have MCAS (Mast Cell Activation Syndrome) and Gastroparesis, and so I literally can’t eat 90% of foods.”

• “I have severe allergies to all grains and legumes.”

• “Intense food aversion/nausea/gagging etc. Dairy is my only protein.”

• “Due to sensory issues because of my autism there are fewer foods that I like than dislike, and the worst is vegetables. There are so few veg and pulses, grains etc that I can eat easily. For environmental and animal rights reasons I’ve cut down my meat and animal products but there’s only so far I can do that.”

• “I have a history of anorexia, so cutting out food groups/restricting my diet in any way would be extremely triggering.”

• “Honestly, I have that hard a time just keeping myself alive some days that I don’t have the bandwidth to even consider completely overhauling my diet.”

From Disability - GenV

I do recommend the whole article it's very informative

 

[Secret Chief]

Some disabilities wont allow you to go vegatarian or vegan. Such as Avoidant restrictive food intake disorder(ARFID)

That is an eating disorder that the person has very few types of foods they comfortable eating usually due to sensory issues. They may eat as little as 10 different types of food. A person like that can die from lack of nutrients and needs therapy to be able to eat other foods outside their comfort zone. If one of the few foods they eat is meat it would be foolish to have them abandon that food causing them to have less nutritional needs met. Legit the disorder can cause folk to have symptoms similar to anorexia due to malnutrition. It would not be good to restrict their already restrictive diet while in therapy.

Goodness, thank you. I've never heard of ARFID. And just read the article ta.

 

[VoidCat]

Goodness, thank you. I've never heard of ARFID.

At one point i suspected i had it but I do not I was just stressed out at the time and having a hard time eating different foods.

 

[Shaul]

It would solve a lot of issues , feed more people, and is easy on land conservation.

No, it wouldn't. Meat production uses vegetable matter (such as corn by products and vegetation from non-cultivable land) that would otherwise be wasted. Meat production increases the total food available for human consumption. Eliminating it would reduce food supplies and cause starvation among the poorest.

 

[VoidCat]

At one point i suspected i had it but I do not I was just stressed out at the time and having a hard time eating different foods.

@Secret Chief
You also might know it by its former name: Selective eating disorder.

 

[Secret Chief]

At one point i suspected i had it but I do not I was just stressed out at the time and having a hard time eating different foods.

The only bit of the article I'm unsure of is:

"While we know that a vegan diet is significantly cheaper than a meat-based one, this relies on being able to buy ingredients, and prepare and cook them, which is not always possible with a disability. Relying on quick and simple, or pre-prepared dishes can be a lot more costly"

Preparing and cooking are obviously part and parcel of any diet and likewise pre-prepared dishes (ready meals) are similarly more expensive whether or not they contain meat. One pays for the lack of hassle

 

[Secret Chief]

@Secret Chief
You also might know it by its former name: Selective eating disorder.

Nope, not heard of it.

 

[VoidCat]

The only bit of the article I'm unsure of is:

"While we know that a vegan diet is significantly cheaper than a meat-based one, this relies on being able to buy ingredients, and prepare and cook them, which is not always possible with a disability. Relying on quick and simple, or pre-prepared dishes can be a lot more costly"

Preparing and cooking are obviously part and parcel of any diet and likewise pre-prepared dishes (ready meals) are similarly more expensive whether or not they contain meat. One pays for the lack of hassle

Many disabled people live off precooked meals. I would if I didnt live in a group home. I have hardly any energy to cook after work and physically cannot bring myself to cook. It's not that the person is lazy and cant cook its that they are unable to sometimes. It is hard to find ones without meat

Nope, not heard of it.

Good to know.