Wildswanderer
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Fox news isn't a " conspiracy theory" source. It's MSM.
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COVID killed twice as many republicans as it did democrats.
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Subduction Zone
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Then you are terribly ignorant. Yes, due to the new variants one's odds of getting Covid are rather high. But the vaccines still work. And this has been shown to you many times. If one has been vaccinated and gets Covid the symptoms of it are far weaker. One is much more likely to survive if one has been vaccinated.
Vaccines do two things. They reduce one's chances of getting the disease in the first place. Until new variants arose the original vaccines did this very well. Second vaccines make the symptoms of a disease far less than if one is unvaccinated. I have provided articles on it, but one of the last people to get smallpox was a person that worked with smallpox patients. That person had taken the smallpox vaccine and still got the disease. That person survived.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
No, it was outside of the "circle of trust" at that time. They may have returned, but their false reporting during the Covid pandemic made them fringe.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/11/08/unique-role-fox-news-misinformation-universe/
"You will probably not be surprised to learn that Republicans are far more likely than Democrats to believe false claims and conspiracy theories centered on the coronavirus vaccines and the pandemic broadly. You will also probably not be surprised to learn that people who trust information about the pandemic from conspiratorial far-right networks such as One America News and Newsmax are much more likely to embrace conspiracy theories than people who watch network news, according to new polling from the Kaiser Family Foundation (KFF).
But you may be surprised to learn that people who say they trust coronavirus information from Fox News were as likely to embrace those false theories as were those who trusted One America News."
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
Lol, so the liberal sources get to decide who is trustworthy? What a crock.
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
Not. That's a blanket statement that's easily demonstrated to be false.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
No, not the "liberal sources" the reliable sources. Just because a source is not bat**** crazy does not make it liberal.
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
Again, you are just picking and choosing what news source you consider reliable. Totally meaningless.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Really prove that it is false. Since it is a blanket statement, which means that it does so on the average individual cases would not refute it. You need to show that most people do no better or worse after getting the vaccine. And this thread alone refutes that claim.
Subduction Zone
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No. I told you that clear standards. A reliable source goes to the real scientists. The experts in the field that put their credibility at risk by publishing in peer reviewed journals. Your sources tend to go to the crackpots in the filed because they are the only ones that support the lunacy that you believe in. The peer review process works because scientists want to know what is real. They do not want to merely believe as you do.
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
I go by what I observe. Not by what the talking heads concoct from data they can twist anyway they like.
My brother the diabetic who smokes sailed through covid unvaccinated, while my daughter double jabbed, had a terrible time and had it twice and still has issues from it.
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
No the peer review is just another way of saying only the in crowd gets to define truth.
Scientists who are not in that crowd but find the truth don't have an agenda to keep them quiet.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
The problem is that you are terribly biased and do not know how to filter what you see. That ends up in your being wrong far more often than you are right when it comes to matters of science.
And as I said, individual cases cannot refute that. You need a statistical study to do so. I got it before vaccines were available and did not have that much of a problem with it. And I have COPD. Not very advanced, but still diagnosed. I had no issues with it either. I was not foolish enough to assume that everyone was that way. A coworker got it the same time that I did. She was about my age, She smoked. She did not make it.
Subduction Zone
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Not at all. Peer review is where someone says "This is what I found, here is my evidence, this is how I ran my experiments . . . " it is a highly detailed piece of work so that others can check and replicate all of the steps of the person that made the claims so that they can confirm them or refute them.
You really should not make false accusations against matters that you have no understanding of at all.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
What flavor Kool-Aid have you been drinking, as study after study has shown that Fox is the least reliable source when it comes to news accuracy as compared to the other major networks. However, these studies did not include some new upstart networks.
Subduction Zone
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Cherry!
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Absolutely false, so who teaches you this trash??? "Peer review" simply means that one's research needs to be aired to other scientists so others can learn and comment.
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
I bet you believe CNN is reliable.
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
You just proved your blanket statement wes false.
Wildswanderer
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BTW, using the smiley face improperly as you did is a violation
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Actually we can check on that. And yes, it is more reliable than FOX. Is it perfect? No. But if you think that CNN is unreliable then you should be laughing your *** off a FOX.