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"THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
You're tired SZ. Get some sleep.
Not at all. Too bad that you often try to use the same sort of techniques in a debate. I used the same poor logic that our poor @3rdAngel used. It left a bad tasted in his mouth.

I don't play the game of going back pages upon pages when a poster tries to debate about old losses. He can start over again. I have no problem with that, but simply linking old posts is not "evidence".

Once again, one must quote the pertinent passages. One must link to that source so that others can see that your are not quote mining. Third one must explain why the person is wrong. All he has ever done is to link to old failed arguments of his. I won't play that game.
 

Soapy

Son of his Father: The Heir and Prince
Where does it say "the Lords day" is Sunday in the bible? - It doesn't. Sunday worship as a replacement for Gods 4th commandment which is one of Gods' 10 commandments is a man-made teaching and tradition that is not supported in the bible that has led many away from God and His Word to break the commandments of God.
See what I mean about just saying everyone else is wrong!!!

Your natural tendency is just to refute anything anyone says to you: ‘Your wrong!’ even when I show you that ‘YOUR wrong!’ IS WRONG!!

It is ‘YOU ARE wrong!’ or “YOU’RE wrong!’ (Capitals optional)

Or, if you don’t like being corrected (which it is obvious that you do not (“DONT” in your belief!) then you can write: ‘What you say is wrong’… or ‘What you said was wrong’ … simples!!!!
 
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3rdAngel

Well-Known Member
3rdAngel said: Nope you quoting you is not evidence. Your running away again.
Your response here...
But you did not do that. You only linked to arguments that you lost.
Wrong. The evidence in post # 602 linked and post # 642 linked proves you not being responsive to the posts contents shared with you from the scriptures that are in disagreement with you as well as your false claims and accusations you are unable to support with any evidence showing you running away when challenged for evidence to support your false claims and accusations. You lost by running away from the discussion.
Here is what you need to do. You need to quote to the claim. You need to link to it so that others can see that you are not quoting out of context. You need to show why that claim was wrong.
Here is what you need to do. Stop making untruthful false claims and accusations you are not able to support with evidence and stop running away from a discussion and address the actual post content that is in disagreement with you. Try reading the linked posts and open your eyes. The evidence has already been provided in post # 602 linked and post # 642 linked
If you only say "he did not give3 me the evidence that I demanded" that is not proving that I was wrong. That only showed that I would not play your silly game. You need to do all of those things. Otherwise I "proved" that you ran way by linking to the thread. Try to use consistent logic please.
That was never my claim to begin with. Seems your back to making up false claims and accusations again. Here let me help you again. When someone makes a post that is in disagreement with you then you need to respond to the posts content showing why you disagree and support your claims with evidence. If you ignore the content of what people post to you and simply state you disagree with it than all you have done is stated you do not agree without providing evidence as to why you are in disagreement. I think you are a nice guy but you do not seem to be able to support your views. Then when challenged to prove your claims running away from the discussion only proves you were the one who lost because of your unwillingness to engage in the discussion and support your view with any evidence.
And as an example that you are running away from even simple questions I will give you a reminder again: 1 Peter 3 15
As posted many time now, I asked you to prove your claims and provide me a link to your false claims and accusations to me not answering your questions from 1 Peter 3:15. I asked you to provide evidence to asking me a question here I have not answered. You have been unwilling to do so because there is nothing to link to. You have no evidence to your false claims and accusations.
 

3rdAngel

Well-Known Member
3rdAngel said: Where does it say "the Lords day" is Sunday in the bible? - It doesn't. Sunday worship as a replacement for Gods 4th commandment which is one of Gods' 10 commandments is a man-made teaching and tradition that is not supported in the bible that has led many away from God and His Word to break the commandments of God.
Your response here...
See what I mean about just saying everyone else is wrong!!!
Where does it say in the post you are quoting from everyone else is wrong and how does what you post here address anything in the post you are quoting from? - It doesn't. You just ignored the content in the post you are quoting from
 

3rdAngel

Well-Known Member
Not at all. Too bad that you often try to use the same sort of techniques in a debate. I used the same poor logic that our poor @3rdAngel used. It left a bad tasted in his mouth.

I don't play the game of going back pages upon pages when a poster tries to debate about old losses. He can start over again. I have no problem with that, but simply linking old posts is not "evidence".

Once again, one must quote the pertinent passages. One must link to that source so that others can see that your are not quote mining. Third one must explain why the person is wrong. All he has ever done is to link to old failed arguments of his. I won't play that game.

You do make me smile :)

Here is a list of posts you refuses to address the post content and scripture contexts that were in disagreement with you but instead chose to run away from the debate instead normally choosing to respond with false accusations and name calling unsupported by any fact of evidence while not being able to address the post and scripture content that was in disagreement with you.

For example....

Post # 181 linked and your response in post # 204 linked - see post # 209 linked
(non responsive not addressing any of the post content with evidence to support your view).

Post # 246 linked and your response in post # 250 linked - see post # 252 linked
(non responsive not addressing any of the post content with evidence to support your view. I had just posted scripture context showing your claims that God did not speak the 10 commandment in Exodus 20 was not true. Then you projected trying to claim I was ignoring context after just providing scripture context. I then asked you then to show me the scripture context that says God did not speak the 10 commandments in Exodus 20. You were unable to do so).

Post # 244 linked your response here in post # 248 linked - see post # 253 linked
(non responsive not addressing any of the post content with evidence to support your view).

Post # 330 linked
your response here in post # 333 linked - see post # 337 linked
(non responsive not addressing any of the post content with evidence to support your view. You made the claim you do not know of any real things in science that cannot be tested for and you asked me for examples. I provided some examples that can be easily googled and then you ignored them).

Post # 409 linked your response here in post # 411 linked - see earlier post # 367 linked
(non responsive not addressing any of the post content with evidence to support your view. You made the claim that I can always prove your claims. I disagreed and said I do not believe you and asked you to provide me with a single link in our discussion. You provided no evidence to your claim to a single link in our discussions).

Post # 425 linked your response here in post # 431 linked - see post # 432 linked
(non responsive not addressing any of the post content with evidence to support your view. You made a claim that user Blu blew away my OP. I asked you for a link to prove your claim and you failed to provide anything proving what you just said. In fact the user you mentioned did not deny the OP at all. You got your facts wrong.).

Post # 436 linked or post # 437 linked your response - silence
(non responsive not addressing any of the post content with evidence to support your view).

Post # 561 linked your response here in post # 562 linked - see post # 564 linked
(non responsive not addressing any of the post content with evidence to support your view. You made the claim that there was old testament scripture that says you cannot travel 1 1/4 mile on the Sabbath. There is no scripture that says this, When asked for scripture you provided none and all your accusations backfired on you).

Post # 557 linked your response here in post # 563 linked - see posts # 565 linked and post # 568 linked (non responsive not addressing any of the post content with evidence to support your view. You made claims and accusations that the scriptures provided in the 10 commandments post repeated in the new testament were not repeated in the new testament. You were asked to prove your claim. You ignored the request).

Now if you disagree with this post prove your claims and provide your evidence. If you cannot all you have are false claims and accusations your unable to prove.

Take Care.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Your response here...

Wrong. The evidence in post # 602 linked and post # 642 linked proves you not being responsive to the posts contents shared with you from the scriptures that are in disagreement with you as well as your false claims and accusations you are unable to support with any evidence showing you running away when challenged for evidence to support your false claims and accusations. You lost by running away from the discussion.

Here is what you need to do. Stop making untruthful false claims and accusations you are not able to support with evidence and stop running away from a discussion and address the actual post content that is in disagreement with you. Try reading the linked posts and open your eyes. The evidence has already been provided in post # 602 linked and post # 642 linked

That was never my claim to begin with. Seems your back to making up false claims and accusations again. Here let me help you again. When someone makes a post that is in disagreement with you then you need to respond to the posts content showing why you disagree and support your claims with evidence. If you ignore the content of what people post to you and simply state you disagree with it than all you have done is stated you do not agree without providing evidence as to why you are in disagreement. I think you are a nice guy but you do not seem to be able to support your views. Then when challenged to prove your claims running away from the discussion only proves you were the one who lost because of your unwillingness to engage in the discussion and support your view with any evidence.

As posted many time now, I asked you to prove your claims and provide me a link to your false claims and accusations to me not answering your questions from 1 Peter 3:15. I asked you to provide evidence to asking me a question here I have not answered. You have been unwilling to do so because there is nothing to link to. You have no evidence to your false claims and accusations.
Please try again. That is an incoherent mess. All that you showed is that I would not play your silly games. My unwillingness to do that is not evidence against my claims. You said the claims were false.

Please prove it.
 

3rdAngel

Well-Known Member
3rdAngel said: Where does it say "the Lords day" is Sunday in the bible? - It doesn't. Sunday worship as a replacement for Gods 4th commandment which is one of Gods' 10 commandments is a man-made teaching and tradition that is not supported in the bible that has led many away from God and His Word to break the commandments of God.
Your response here.
Your natural tendency is just to refute anything anyone says to you: ‘Your wrong!’ even when I show you that ‘YOUR wrong!’ IS WRONG!!

It is ‘YOU ARE wrong!’ or “YOU’RE wrong!’ (Capitals optional)

Or, if you don’t like being corrected (which it is obvious that you do not (“DONT” in your belief!) then you can write: ‘What you say is wrong’… or ‘What you said was wrong’ … simples!!!!

You made the claim I say you are wrong with out any evidence - Post me a linked example. If you cannot why make up things that are not truthful?
 

3rdAngel

Well-Known Member
Please try again. That is an incoherent mess. All that you showed is that I would not play your silly games. My unwillingness to do that is not evidence against my claims. You said the claims were false. Please prove it.
Evidence hurts a little right? You cannot argue with it. Try adding some to your posts it will make you more believable. Just saying :)
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
You do make me smile :)

Here is a list of posts you refuses to address the post content and scripture contexts that were in disagreement with you but instead chose to run away from the debate instead normally choosing to respond with false accusations and name calling unsupported by any fact of evidence while not being able to address the post and scripture content that was in disagreement with you.

For example....

Post # 181 linked and your response in post # 204 linked - see post # 209 linked
(non responsive not addressing any of the post content with evidence to support your view).

Post # 246 linked and your response in post # 250 linked - see post # 252 linked
(non responsive not addressing any of the post content with evidence to support your view. I had just posted scripture context showing your claims that God did not speak the 10 commandment in Exodus 20 was not true. Then you projected trying to claim I was ignoring context after just providing scripture context. I then asked you then to show me the scripture context that says God did not speak the 10 commandments in Exodus 20. You were unable to do so).

Post # 244 linked your response here in post # 248 linked - see post # 253 linked
(non responsive not addressing any of the post content with evidence to support your view).

Post # 330 linked
your response here in post # 333 linked - see post # 337 linked
(non responsive not addressing any of the post content with evidence to support your view. You made the claim you do not know of any real things in science that cannot be tested for and you asked me for examples. I provided some examples that can be easily googled and then you ignored them).

Post # 409 linked your response here in post # 411 linked - see earlier post # 367 linked
(non responsive not addressing any of the post content with evidence to support your view. You made the claim that I can always prove your claims. I disagreed and said I do not believe you and asked you to provide me with a single link in our discussion. You provided no evidence to your claim to a single link in our discussions).

Post # 425 linked your response here in post # 431 linked - see post # 432 linked
(non responsive not addressing any of the post content with evidence to support your view. You made a claim that user Blu blew away my OP. I asked you for a link to prove your claim and you failed to provide anything proving what you just said. In fact the user you mentioned did not deny the OP at all. You got your facts wrong.).

Post # 436 linked or post # 437 linked your response - silence
(non responsive not addressing any of the post content with evidence to support your view).

Post # 561 linked your response here in post # 562 linked - see post # 564 linked
(non responsive not addressing any of the post content with evidence to support your view. You made the claim that there was old testament scripture that says you cannot travel 1 1/4 mile on the Sabbath. There is no scripture that says this, When asked for scripture you provided none and all your accusations backfired on you).

Post # 557 linked your response here in post # 563 linked - see posts # 565 linked and post # 568 linked (non responsive not addressing any of the post content with evidence to support your view. You made claims and accusations that the scriptures provided in the 10 commandments post repeated in the new testament were not repeated in the new testament. You were asked to prove your claim. You ignored the request).

Now if you disagree with this post prove your claims and provide your evidence. If you cannot all you have are false claims and accusations your unable to prove.

Take Care.

You still have not provided any evidence that my claims were wrong. All you did was to show once again that I will not play your silly games.

When you find some evidence please tell me.
 

3rdAngel

Well-Known Member
You still have not provided any evidence that my claims were wrong. All you did was to show once again that I will not play your silly games. When you find some evidence please tell me.
Well that claim is not true. Do you want me to pull up some specific example from those lists for discussion? Happy to if you like. Just let me know.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Evidence hurts a little right? You cannot argue with it. Try adding some to your posts it will make you more believable. :)
Not at all. You did not follow my instructions.

There was nothing to argue against. You had nothing.

Once again you must quote, link and explain. Not playing your game is not evidence against my claims.
 

3rdAngel

Well-Known Member
Not at all. You did not follow my instructions.

There was nothing to argue against. You had nothing.

Once again you must quote, link and explain. Not playing your game is not evidence against my claims.
Go get some sleep man you responding to the same posts
 

Soapy

Son of his Father: The Heir and Prince
Your response here...

If I think something someone says is wrong I will show what it is I believe is wrong and prove why I believe what someone might be saying is wrong. Unlike you and your friend who both like to say something might be wrong but when challenged cannot prove your claims.

You never asked me the first time what is the first day of the week. In the Hebrew reckoning system it has always been our time Saturday sunset to Sunday sunset after the seventh day Sabbath that starts from sunset Friday to sunset Saturday. Now tell me what does that have to do with the post and scriptures you are responding to that is in disagreement with you that says that the Sabbath is not any day of the week? - Nothing. The scripture that disagrees with you says that Gods' Sabbath is "the seventh day" of the week which is in disagreement with you. Are you going to respond to the post you are quoting from now?

Take Care.
The FIRST DAY of the Jewish WEEK is what is NOW LABELLED ‘SUNDAY’.

Many website sources cite similar information:
  • “According to Jewish tradition, that seventh day is Saturday. This is the day of the week set aside for rest and worship, making Sunday the start of the new week. According to one blogger: Sunday was traditionally regarded as the first day of the week by both Christians and Jews.”
  • “The Gregorian calendar, currently used in most countries, is derived from the Hebrew calendar, where Sunday is considered the beginning of the week. Although in Judaism the Sabbath is on Saturday, while in Christianity it is on Sunday,…”
  • “The Jewish Sabbath (from Hebrew shavat, “to rest”) is observed throughout the year on the seventh day of the week—Saturday.”
And, guess what:
  • “On March 7, 321, however, Roman Emperor Constantine I issued a civil decree making Sunday a day of rest from labor, stating: All judges and city people and the craftsmen shall rest upon the venerable day of the sun.”
(I wanted to highlight parts of that quote to show more clearly how Sunday became the ROMAN SABBATH… but then I realised that the whole quote was fully relevant!!! So I left it un-bolded!)

Well, now are you going to say that what I said was wrong….

(oh! You still haven’t shown me where ANYTHING that I said to you is/was incorrect along with the PROOF of that incorrectness… what’s wrong?!! ‘Dog ate your pen?’)
 
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