Afghanistan grows more moral by the moment

[Secret Chief]

I believe the term was ditzy broads, wasn't it?

Both actually.

"Shes a dumb ditzy broad."

 

[CharmingOwl]

Imagine banning women from parks and gyms? Let's put aside how crazy this is, but they don't even want their wives to be fit and have nice bodies? What is wrong with these people?

 

[InChrist]

Today, a new law by the Taliban comes into effect banning women from gyms and parks.

Yes, you read that correctly --- PARKS.

My fingers are screaming to type 50,000 lines of snide, but I'd rather stay a member of RF in good standing.

Very sad and oppressive situation for the women there.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Imagine banning women from parks and gyms? Let's put aside how crazy this is, but they don't even want their wives to be fit and have nice bodies? What is wrong with these people?

I'm not sure "what is wrong with these people" is quite the right question -- but certainly there seems to be something that skews their thinking in ways that many of us can't understand.

I will tell you, I think that there are some very important markers:

• limited intelligence, perhaps the result of limited education or a supression of intelligent thought in favour of religious dogma (the most dangerous thing humans have created, in my personal view).
• exaggerated group-think (often the result of the point above)
• "at-war/adversarial" tribal mentality that suppresses empathy, which permits any atrocity in favour of tribal safety
• internal acknowledgement that the rest of the world is so far ahead of you, and needing to find some means of fealing as if you're in control of something.

 

[Valjean]

It's their country now. Not anyone else's problem anymore.

This 'us vs them', tribal exceptionalism, is a major hindrance to human rights worldwide.
The world can no longer afford this kind of insular, hierarchical, moral tribalism.

You are your sister's keeper. No man is an island...

 

[Valjean]

It is everywhere, the contempt for women, or "dumb broads" as they are sometimes called.

Not just women. Humans are naturally tribal. Extending moral consideration to those outside one's tribe was neither feasible nor safe throughout 99% of our evolutionary history. This social tribalism is hard-wired.

 

[Valjean]

I'm not sure "what is wrong with these people" is quite the right question -- but certainly there seems to be something that skews their thinking in ways that many of us can't understand.

I will tell you, I think that there are some very important markers:

• limited intelligence, perhaps the result of limited education or a supression of intelligent thought in favour of religious dogma (the most dangerous thing humans have created, in my personal view).
• exaggerated group-think (often the result of the point above)
• "at-war/adversarial" tribal mentality that suppresses empathy, which permits any atrocity in favour of tribal safety
• internal acknowledgement that the rest of the world is so far ahead of you, and needing to find some means of fealing as if you're in control of something.

Replacement fear? The livestock or house-slaves threatening the traditional roles or social status of the dominant sex?

 

[stvdv]

You know me.
Everything in moderation.
(I'm mild.)

You are my Guru

 

[stvdv]

Do you believe the Taliban, an extremist organization responsible for multiple terror attacks, is representative of "most Muslim men"

No

 

[Vee]

My fingers are screaming to type 50,000 lines of snide, but I'd rather stay a member of RF in good standing.

I think RF should allow you an exception.

 

[1213]

Today, a new law by the Taliban comes into effect banning women from gyms and parks.
...

It is still better than to be bombed by US regime.

 

[Aštra’el]

Do you miss us yet?

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

Do you miss us yet?

We didn't do a damn thing to stop radical Islam. We got our oil and got out.

 

[wellwisher]

Today, a new law by the Taliban comes into effect banning women from gyms and parks.

Yes, you read that correctly --- PARKS.

My fingers are screaming to type 50,000 lines of snide, but I'd rather stay a member of RF in good standing.

This is not about being more moral but rather about practicing relative morality. Morality is about maximizing the group, whereas relative morality is about the maximizing the ego of some.

When you maximize the group, a team affect can occur where the team can become more than the sum of its parts. This is similar to the GNP of a country growing, due the boosting affect of the team; free market affect.

Relative morality is where the full team spirit is lacking for growth. However, the egos of some are able to rise by digging a hole for others; zero sum game.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

This is not about being more moral but rather about practicing relative morality. Morality is about maximizing the group, whereas relative morality is about the maximizing the ego of some.

When you maximize the group, a team affect can occur where the team can become more than the sum of its parts. This is similar to the GNP of a country growing, due the boosting affect of the team; free market affect.

Relative morality is where the full team spirit is lacking for growth. However, the egos of some are able to rise by digging a hole for others; zero sum game.

It's a very silly way to go about "maximizing the group." Anyone who has ever tried team building knows that rather than trying to make everybody the same, you build the best team by using the best of each of the individual team members' skills and talents. By using their differences to overall advantage, their individual uniqueness to strengthen the overall effectiveness of the group.

Turning every individual into a pious prig will give you a society with only a single talent, priggish piety. And a lot of resentment.

 

[Wildswanderer]

This 'us vs them', tribal exceptionalism, is a major hindrance to human rights worldwide.
The world can no longer afford this kind of insular, hierarchical, moral tribalism.

You are your sister's keeper. No man is an island...

So we should invade again?

 

[Valjean]

Maybe we should cede all military power to the UN and let them do the job they were created for.