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Baha'i and oneness of god

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
The fundamental difference is:
1. I am saying that there are two gods: Jesus Christ, and satan.

There is only one absolute God, all that exists exists in God, both good and evil. The tree of good and evil exists in God's creation. Isaiah 45:6-7. There is no God besides Me, I am Jehovah, and there is no other.. I form the light, and the darkness, I make peace, and prepare evil, I am Jehovah, doing all these things.

God is the transcendent all, good and evil are the manifested attributes, without which there could be no creation!

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TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
There is only one absolute God, all that exists exists in God, both good and evil. The tree of good and evil exists in God's creation. Isaiah 45:6-7. There is no God besides Me, I am Jehovah, and there is no other.. I form the light, and the darkness, I make peace, and prepare evil, I am Jehovah, doing all these things.

God is the transcendent all, good and evil are the manifested attributes, without which there could be no creation!

iu

Welcome all, to this world of our choices.

Regards Tony
 

Dawnofhope

Non-Proselytizing Baha'i
Staff member
Premium Member
I have heard some of these lies from Baha'i about what it thinks of Jesus.

The quote is from Shoghi Effendi, the Guardian of the Baha'i Faith. As such it is an authoritative interpretive statement about how the Baha'i writings view Jesus, the Gospel and the apostle Peter. Why do you think it is a lie?
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I have heard some of these lies from Baha'i about what it thinks of Jesus.

A Baha'i holds trustworthiness and truthfulness as the sustaining requirements in the practice of their Faith.

As such, I would offer, if you went to any workplace, or any community where a Baha'i works and resides and is known, that honesty would be on top of the list you would hear about them.

So do you really want to offer that as a defence of your Faith?
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Excellent definition of God. I might add that wrt "his image is reflected in his creation", one could say that since God is the source of our being, God is us! We are all expressions of God, all that exists is God, not equal expressions, but expressions nevertheless. This realization brings not pride, but humility.

That concept unfolds in our ability to polish the dross off from the mirror of our heart, so we become a reflection of the Divine attributes.

We see that the Manifestations of God are that perfect mirror.

Regards Tony
 

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
There is no God besides Me, I am Jehovah, and there is no other.. I form the light, and the darkness, I make peace, and prepare evil, I am Jehovah, doing all these things.
The Holy Bible is an old book, and needs correct interpretation. That is why there are many denominations, and translations of Bible: NIV, KJV, and many more.
 

Brian2

Veteran Member
Then we could consider it is us that have the capacity to make of ourselves our own God's.

Yet religious scriptures tell us of One God.

There are 3 major veils between us and God.

One is the promise of heaven,
One is the promise of hell, and
The other is the veils of Names.

Regards Tony

Yes we can make our own gods and worship them.
The veils are too cryptic for me.
 

Brian2

Veteran Member
Jesus said not my will but the Will of the Father be done.

There is a story that indicates to us that we as humans have the power over good and evil with our choices.

Matthew 4:1-11
At that time Jesus was led by the Spirit into the desert to be tempted by the devil. He fasted for forty days and forty nights and afterwards was hungry. The tempter approached and said to him, “If you are the Son of God, command that these stones become loaves of bread.

This is a metephor for the battle we face daily from our own selves. We have the divine capacity to embrace the Spirit that was Jesus the Christ, the Spirit that lead Jesus to the desert. Fighting against that spirit is our own human nature, the Tempter, taking us away from the divine capacity.

So as a human we have that choice, we can be the good, or we are the evil.

Regards Tony

But you do know of Bible passages that show Satan to be a living being.
 

Truthseeker

Non-debating member when I can help myself
It's My Birthday!

Truthseeker

Non-debating member when I can help myself
It's My Birthday!
The satan is powered by the sins of the humankind. More sins - more strength of satan. The satan cannot be executed without the executions of all his followers (sinners). Why? The satan is spirit. The spirit of a thing is notion, definition of this thing. Hence, the satan is sin and sin is satan.
The execution of all sinners seems satanic to me. Where's the mercy of God?
 
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