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Referendums in Ukraine

Yerda

Veteran Member
Moscow-engineered referendums are taking place in four occupied regions of Ukraine, with results in favour of annexation seen as a foregone conclusion.

Kremlin eyes quick annexation of occupied Ukrainian regions

It looks like in order to avoid complete humiliation Russia is planning to leave with another four chunks of Ukraine. Holding elections in an occupied territory in a state of war is a joke. I wish justice for the Ukrainian people and justice on the leaders in Russia. And arsecancer on every supporter of Putin.
 
Have seen some reports the voting process is that some kindly soldiers approach you in the street or knock on your door to ask you what you want to vote for and then go to the trouble of noting it down for you. They even carry guns so that you feel safe from any thugs who would look to intimidate you to into voting for their preferred result.

Nice they are making voting so easy and accessible...
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Russia did what the left has been wanting to do for themselves.

It's called compulsory voting!
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Russia did what the left has been wanting to do for themselves.

It's called compulsory voting!

Ummm...

I live in a country with compulsory voting. Whilst I realise you're attempting to make a joke, I think you're putting two and two together and getting about 0.5
 
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Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Ummm...

I love in a country with compulsory voting. Whilst I realise you're attempting to make a joke, I think you're putting two and two together and getting about 0.5
I don't Iike the idea of someone pointing a gun at me and ordering me to a voting booth.

No thanks.
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
I don't Iike the idea of someone pointing a gun at me and ordering me to a voting booth.

No thanks.

I live in a country with compulsory voting, and even though I don't support it, it doesn't look anything like that. Most countries around the world with compulsory voting have minimal sanctions for those that decide not to vote.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Russia did what the left has been wanting to do for themselves.

It's called compulsory voting!

Compulsory voting in most countries that employ it is a far cry from what Russia is currently doing in Ukraine.

Please don't minimize the atrocity carried out by Putin's regime by comparing it to voting laws that don't threaten anyone's physical safety in the slightest.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Compulsory voting in most countries that employ it is a far cry from what Russia is currently doing in Ukraine.

Please don't minimize the atrocity carried out by Putin's regime by comparing it to voting laws that don't threaten anyone's physical safety in the slightest.
I doubt it. Anything compulsory has the potential to take it a step further at any time.

Even if it seems harmless or minimal at first glance.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
Moscow-engineered referendums are taking place in four occupied regions of Ukraine, with results in favour of annexation seen as a foregone conclusion.

Kremlin eyes quick annexation of occupied Ukrainian regions

It looks like in order to avoid complete humiliation Russia is planning to leave with another four chunks of Ukraine. Holding elections in an occupied territory in a state of war is a joke. I wish justice for the Ukrainian people and justice on the leaders in Russia. And arsecancer on every supporter of Putin.
It's meaningless posing when he can't hold the territories he claims he's annexing. BUT, if it gives his ego a way to save face and get out, I'm ALL FOR IT! "Here's the deed to your pretend territories, and we'll throw in the Brooklyn Bridge for good measure! Now go on home and play the hero ... just get the hell out of here!"
 

MikeF

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Ok, fair play. I don't really want anyone to get cancer. If I'm really honest what I want is for them to experience the shame of knowing that they supported a tyranical psychopath and his kleptocrat regime.

Can they even know Putin is a tyrant if the state has a strangle-hold on media? I am not fully informed about Russian citizens access to non-state information, but I do recall a news piece in which a young woman who went to university in the west literally struggle the first few years to reconcile what she was exposed to in the west and what she had grown up learning and believing about her country and Putin up to that point. I think it ended up affecting her relationship with family members when she began to challenge state media positions.
 
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