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Think That Food You're Eating Is Vegetarian?

SalixIncendium

अग्निविलोवनन्दः
Staff member
Premium Member
I think the rennet one for cheese is fairly well-known. Gelatine maybe less so.

I knew about the gelatin, and have actively avoided gummies, jello, etc., but I was unaware of the rennet. Kinda makes me sad, as I really like cheese and that was a major source of my protein.
 

Sirona

Hindu Wannabe
Some Hare Krishnas in Germany offer a "cheese list". They went to the trouble of writing to all cheese manufacturers in Germany to ask which brands of cheese were free of animal rennet. I don't know if microbial rennet is okay, but I guess microbes don't count as "animals". If there is no such list for your country yet, it might be a worthwhile task to compile one for your own country.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Think again...

15 Surprising Foods That Aren't Vegetarian Or Vegan, Even Though They Seem Like They Would Be

How many of you vegetarians were unknowingly eating animal product?

I knew several of these contained animal product, but I'll admit I was taken by surprise when I read about white sugar.

Are bugs/insects vegan? Bon appetit!

A new study from an insect control company estimated that we eat, on average, 140,000 'bug bits' every year. Mealworm, maggot, and roach pieces are found in everyday foods like chocolate, coffee, and wheat flour. It's totally legal: The FDA allows small amounts of insect matter in our food."

https://www-businessinsider-com.cdn...insider.com/foods-full-of-insects-bugs-2017-6
 

mangalavara

सो ऽहम्
Premium Member
I knew about the gelatin, and have actively avoided gummies, jello, etc., but I was unaware of the rennet. Kinda makes me sad, as I really like cheese and that was a major source of my protein.

This reminds me that on food packages in Korea, there is a small area that lists certain ingredients for people with food allergies, and vegetarians. Gummies and the like always say ‘beef’ or ‘pork’ in Korean. Many chocolate products made in Korea also say ‘beef’ on them.
 

Yerda

Veteran Member
I knew several of these contained animal product, but I'll admit I was taken by surprise when I read about white sugar.
That was news to me too and I've been checking labels for 20 years looking for animal products. Never even thought to look at the sugar.
 

mangalavara

सो ऽहम्
Premium Member
Think again...

15 Surprising Foods That Aren't Vegetarian Or Vegan, Even Though They Seem Like They Would Be

How many of you vegetarians were unknowingly eating animal product?

I knew several of these contained animal product, but I'll admit I was taken by surprise when I read about white sugar.

I would like to mention that my understanding of vegetarianism—and this might be controversial to some people—is that vegetarianism is the practice of not eating animal flesh. That’s literally all there is to it. On the other hand, veganism is the practice of abstaining from animal flesh and all animal by-products, orally and otherwise. For this reason, I consider gummies, for instance, vegetarian.
 

SalixIncendium

अग्निविलोवनन्दः
Staff member
Premium Member
I would like to mention that my understanding of vegetarianism—and this might be controversial to some people—is that vegetarianism is the practice of not eating animal flesh. That’s literally all there is to it. On the other hand, veganism is the practice of abstaining from animal flesh and all animal by-products, orally and otherwise. For this reason, I consider gummies, for instance, vegetarian.

I will eat things animals produce naturally, i.e. dairy and unfertilized eggs. I won't eat any animal parts, including, but not limited to bones, hooves, fat, etc.
 

SalixIncendium

अग्निविलोवनन्दः
Staff member
Premium Member
Are bugs/insects vegan? Bon appetit!

A new study from an insect control company estimated that we eat, on average, 140,000 'bug bits' every year. Mealworm, maggot, and roach pieces are found in everyday foods like chocolate, coffee, and wheat flour. It's totally legal: The FDA allows small amounts of insect matter in our food."

https://www-businessinsider-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.businessinsider.com/foods-full-of-insects-bugs-2017-6?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&amp&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw==#aoh=16632498275994&referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://www.businessinsider.com/foods-full-of-insects-bugs-2017-6

I pick them out. ;)
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
I knew about the gelatin, and have actively avoided gummies, jello, etc., but I was unaware of the rennet. Kinda makes me sad, as I really like cheese and that was a major source of my protein.
In fact, you may be able to relax a bit. I see this is what Wiki has to say about substitutes:

Because of the imperfections and scarcity of microbial and animal rennets, producers sought replacements. With the development of genetic engineering, it became possible to extract rennet-producing genes from animal stomach and insert them into certain bacteria, fungi or yeasts to make them produce chymosin during fermentation.[11][12] The genetically modified microorganism is killed after fermentation and chymosin is isolated from the fermentation broth, so that the fermentation-produced chymosin (FPC) used by cheese producers does not contain any GM component or ingredient.[13] FPC contains the identical chymosin as the animal source, but produced in a more efficient way. FPC products have been on the market since 1990 and are considered the ideal milk-clotting enzyme.[14]

FPC was the first artificially produced enzyme to be registered and allowed by the US Food and Drug Administration. In 1999, about 60% of US hard cheese was made with FPC[15] and it has up to 80% of the global market share for rennet.[16]

By 2008, approximately 80% to 90% of commercially made cheeses in the US and Britain were made using FPC.[13] The most widely used fermentation-produced chymosin is produced either using the fungus Aspergillus niger or using Kluyveromyces lactis.

FPC contains only chymosin B,[17] achieving a higher degree of purity compared with animal rennet. FPC can deliver several benefits to the cheese producer compared with animal or microbial rennet, such as higher production yield, better curd texture and reduced bitterness.[14]


So it looks as if today most cheesemaking uses FPC (fermentation-produced chymosin), generated by GM yeasts, not from animals at all, save in the sense that they contributed their genes to make it possible.

Mind you, the 80-90% they talk about may be the industrial "cheese" that you and I would never dream of eating.......

But worth a discussion with the cheesemonger, at least.
 

Secret Chief

nirvana is samsara
I'm sure we all consume things we don't intend to. Enjoying that shiny apple? Maybe it's shiny cos it's coated in shellac.
Do any of us want to be consuming micro-plastics? I'm guessing not.
 
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