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Conservatives & Their Penchant For Over-Regulation

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It was a toothless law which any lawyer in the states would have known was toothless. Signing it into legislation was simply a lever to create the legal instability requiring courts to interpret how toothless it was. In other words this law was all a show, just a show. All talk. No do.
Perhaps just for show. But he could pursue prosecution
of companies & executives. Would SCOTUS support
him? Unlikely but possible.
The real issue here is conservatives increasingly
micro-regulating business. This just might be another
example.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Interesting law but hard to understand without reading the actual law, and that probably would not help understanding it.
Any idea what "burden speech" means?
I know in Australia the conservative (right wing) are less likely to bring in laws against freedom of speech. That whole area can quickly turn into laws pushing for the political correctness of the day I would think.
I think we're seeing conservatives experience several
things...
- Trump cult
- Reacting to leftish speech/education policies, eg, CRT.
- Being able to get away with more extreme legislation
with the new SCOTUS makeup.
- Anger over the "stolen" election.
 

Brian2

Veteran Member
I think we're seeing conservatives experience several
things...
- Trump cult
- Reacting to leftish speech/education policies, eg, CRT.
- Being able to get away with more extreme legislation
with the new SCOTUS makeup.
- Anger over the "stolen" election.

It is interesting that what is seen by some as anti racist can be seen by others as racist.
I guess the whole thing requires humility and a willingness to try to look at things truthfully and to really hear what others are saying,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, if that is possible when we see things naturally from our own particular pov.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It is interesting that what is seen by some as anti racist can be seen by others as racist.
I guess the whole thing requires humility and a willingness to try to look at things truthfully and to really hear what others are saying,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, if that is possible when we see things naturally from our own particular pov.
Some think that being anti-racist involves
being pro some races, yet anti others.
It's an irrational reaction to racism.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Did you read the bill?

The intent was to be non-discriminatory.
I've not read it.
But anti-discrimination laws (if this is one) are
all about micro-regulation. Try being a residential
landlord, & comply with the many regulations,
some of which are in direct conflict with others,
eg, zoning law requiring discrimination based
upon age & family status here in Ann Arbor.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
I know phony when I see it.
You take a piece of a fact and exaggerate it
into something absurd.

100%. Ha. As if.

I know where you live because you've told us. And I don't blame you for repeating Chinese propaganda lies with nothing to back them up because lies have no foundation.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I know phony when I see it.
You take a piece of a fact and exaggerate it
into something absurd.

100%. Ha. As if.
I read his post as a fanciful rant...not an attempt at accuracy.
So yes, nonsense it was....but OK because of poetic license.

Of course, if he returns to claim 100% cromulence, we'll just
chalk it up to his being a running dog of communism.
 

Secret Chief

nirvana is samsara
Fortunately, a judge stands in the way of regulatory mischief.
Federal judge temporarily blocks Florida 'Stop WOKE ACT'
Excerpted...
A federal judge has granted an injunction temporarily blocking a key aspect of Florida’s new law that restricts workplaces from implementing “woke” training about race relations.

In a 44-page decision filed on Thursday, Chief U.S. District Judge Mark Walker criticized the Stop WOKE Act as “bordering on unintelligible” and granted a temporary injunction, ruling that provisions of the law violate the First Amendment. The ruling comes less than two months after the law took effect, restricting what workplaces can implement in their employee training.

COMPANIES SUE FLORIDA OVER ‘STOP WOKE ACT,’ ALLEGING FREE SPEECH VIOLATIONS

“In the popular television series Stranger Things, the ‘upside down’ describes a parallel dimension containing a distorted version of our world,” Walker wrote, referencing the science fiction Netflix show. “Recently, Florida has seemed like a First Amendment upside down. Normally, the First Amendment bars the state from burdening speech, while private actors may burden speech freely. But in Florida, the First Amendment apparently bars private actors from burdening speech, while the state may burden speech freely.”

The injunction halts the state from enforcing the Stop WOKE Act, which forbids companies from including eight concepts in their employee training, including ideas that promote critical race theory or suggestions that one “bears personal responsibility for and must feel guilt, anguish, or other forms of psychological distress because of actions, in which the individual played no part.”

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, a Republican, signed the legislation in April, and the law took effect in July. Several businesses challenged the law, arguing the legislation violates their First Amendment rights and is too vague to enforce.
To a fairly thick non-American this all reads like an outtake from Through The Looking Glass.
And a friendly word - "penchant" is of French origin. Feeling a little concerned here Rev.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
I read his post as a fanciful rant...not an attempt at accuracy.
So yes, nonsense it was....but OK because of poetic license.

Of course, if he returns to claim 100% cromulence, we'll just
chalk it up to his being a running dog of communism.
Of course it's a farcical rant, but since
he defends it, he means it.
 
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