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What do you Wish Christians Knew about your Worldview?

firedragon

Veteran Member
What do you wish Christians knew about your religion or your worldview? I am opening this thread to anyone.

That according to my theology, you are saved for simply believing in God, doing good deeds and knowing there is a last day.
 

Dawnofhope

Non-Proselytizing Baha'i
Staff member
Premium Member
What do you wish Christians knew about your religion or your worldview? I am opening this thread to anyone.
I wish Christians understood that other religions such as Judaism, Islam, Hinduism and Buddhism have similar value and purpose to Christianity. There is no need for one who has grown up in one of these religions to convert to Christianity.
 

JustGeorge

Not As Much Fun As I Look
Staff member
Premium Member
Only if you believe a Religion MUST be static and not evolve or improve

This is totally opposite to how human innate drive works

I think its cool watching religions evolve. However, I note that it doesn't all change, and sometimes a person misses something when they're too quick to equate something that's new to them with their own path(even though it might be easier mentally). After a person has learned a bit, one can more efficiently see the similarities, but if one moves too quick, I fear some things end up getting 'misinterpreted'.

When we were in Girl Scouts as kids, there was a song that said "make new friends, but keep the old, one is silver and the other gold". That's kind of how I think of it. Make way for (positive)new ways of experiencing things, but still preserve the (positive) old ways. Easier to preserve and respect when we have good understanding, in my view.
 
What do you wish Christians knew about your religion or your worldview? I am opening this thread to anyone.

I believe - you can only acquire passport to get into God's immediate kingdom while you are still alive. IMO
You could use many different kinds of passport to cross the border to get into God's immediate kingdom but the ones with monotheistic stamp on it will have the quickest entry in my opinion. The rest will have a difficult time at the border. IMO
Atheists won't even have a passport. IMO. They don't have any desire to attain one. They won't be in a need to get there because they didn't believe the place existed. So, they could be endlessly wondering around into nothingness unless of course God has mercy on them and decides they should also be guided to the entry port. It is God's prerogative to do that.
Once inside of God's immediate kingdom - your identity doesn't matter anymore. Now the only thing matters is what you carried with you - your good deeds! You will be evaluated on the judgement day and your spot will be assign to you.

So, in short - your monotheistic stamp is the most important thing to attain while alive. IMO There is nothing more important than that! IMO
I also believe - on the judgment day - sins will be measured in direct proportion to the damage it produces. Good deeds will be rewarded in direct proportion to the benefit it brings forth. So, we better hope we will have a surplus of good deeds that day! By the way - no one can share their surplus of good deeds with anyone or help anyone erase their sins that day except God. I believe Jesus is not God. So, we will be on our own!
 

VoidCat

Pronouns: he/him/they/them
Well, I'm learning from this thread that people on here have a very low estimation of Christians. :rolleyes:
In case you are including me in this comment which you might not be...
I don't have a low estimation of Christians. I believe anyone can be open-minded and kind. And tolerate other people's beliefs. However I have a low estimation of some Christians who are unwilling to listen to and tolerate any belief aside from their own. It's mostly Christians I run into that try to force their beliefs on me and like to view me as evil. Occasionally it's other groups that are like that. I understand why to an extent. I used to be one of those type of Christians who didn't respect anyone's beliefs but their own and would try to force said beliefs on others among other things. However it's not all christians that think im evil and have loads of misconceptions about my beliefs. In fact I'll say most Christians are willing to talk and learn more rather then just say im evil. Most Christians are very kind. But it's not an insignifactant amount I've ran into that have zero understanding of paganism or of left handed paths and think im a horrible person who'll only harm folk and think I am incapable of kindness
 

Ella S.

*temp banned*
That I actually have read and formally studied the Christian Bible, Biblical history, Christian theology, and Christian apologetics, and that I have had plenty of the same experiences of the Holy Spirit or answered prayers that they have.

That I'm also aware of the supposed archaeological evidence such as the "shroud of Turin," as well as numerous supposed instances of miracles such as the Fatima sun dance and "scientific" claims about quantum brains, souls, the Cognitive-Theoretic Model of the Universe, the fundamental arguments for God (such as the ontological, deontological, cosmological, fine-tuning, beauty, and apparent design arguments), etc.

That I actually have read Tertullian, Justin Martyr, Augustine, Kant, Kierkegaard and so on. I'm even familiar with Rastafarian and Rosicrucian beliefs, including "Christian Cabala" and other forms of Christian mysticism and Christian esotericism.

That it's my familiarity with Christian mysticism, Christian existentialism, and Jeffersonianism that allows me to accept that there can be a rational basis for being a Christian in a religious sense. The issue is the claims of miracles, the resurrection, prophets, and the afterlife, as well as with those who believe in God as some sort of concrete being who exists in reality rather than a philosophical concept.
 

Psalm23

Well-Known Member
That treating others with decency, respect and inclusion ─ note that last one ─ is more important than religiosity.

That Do No Harm is a more important principle than religiosity.

I can agree with you on this.
 

Psalm23

Well-Known Member
That I actually have read and formally studied the Christian Bible, Biblical history, Christian theology, and Christian apologetics, and that I have had plenty of the same experiences of the Holy Spirit or answered prayers that they have.

That I'm also aware of the supposed archaeological evidence such as the "shroud of Turin," as well as numerous supposed instances of miracles such as the Fatima sun dance and "scientific" claims about quantum brains, souls, the Cognitive-Theoretic Model of the Universe, the fundamental arguments for God (such as the ontological, deontological, cosmological, fine-tuning, beauty, and apparent design arguments), etc.

That I actually have read Tertullian, Justin Martyr, Augustine, Kant, Kierkegaard and so on. I'm even familiar with Rastafarian and Rosicrucian beliefs, including "Christian Cabala" and other forms of Christian mysticism and Christian esotericism.

That it's my familiarity with Christian mysticism, Christian existentialism, and Jeffersonianism that allows me to accept that there can be a rational basis for being a Christian in a religious sense. The issue is the claims of miracles, the resurrection, prophets, and the afterlife, as well as with those who believe in God as some sort of concrete being who exists in reality rather than a philosophical concept.

You have read more on this than myself. I have heard of the shroud of Turin but not the Fatima sun dance. I don't view the shroud of Turin as evidence and have heard it is a fake.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
When we were in Girl Scouts as kids, there was a song that said "make new friends, but keep the old, one is silver and the other gold". That's kind of how I think of it. Make way for (positive)new ways of experiencing things, but still preserve the (positive) old ways. Easier to preserve and respect when we have good understanding, in my view.
Nice

Sai Baba also adviced us (in my words) "You can choose any Faith you want, all lead to God, one is not better than the other...just stick to your choice and dive deep, then for sure you are bound to find the pearl"

And he specified "choose any one of the Religions that has withstood the test of time"
 

stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
However, I note that it doesn't all change, and sometimes a person misses something
Evolution goes very slow and gradual
All creation does change continually, except God, Truth. Only we can't always notice, unless we have a "birds view", or are omniscient.

But true, sometimes I do say to myself "when will I ever learn this" or "how long does it take before I learn this lesson?"
 

stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
After a person has learned a bit, one can more efficiently see the similarities, but if one moves too quick, I fear some things end up getting 'misinterpreted'.
And even this might be usefull, if afterwards he sees his mistake and learns from it

So, maybe after all "everything is perfect", I don't say "convenient or fun" of course, but meant to be at that time and place.

Seeing all as "perfect" from God's POV, is the only way that makes sense to me. Then I see no inconsistencies in the core Spiritual Teachings of all the Scriptures and even most stories make sense
 

Psalm23

Well-Known Member
I don't worship the representation of the Devil as portrayed in their Bible or the folk mythology surrounding. I'm not into evil, lying, stealing, killing, etc.

Which representation of the Devil do you worship? Is he/she seen as a good moral being?
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
That human scientists are the theist satanist sun worshippers just as taught.

Who claim when the big bang sun...not a cold mass then. Just a colder massed sun than today. As they know cold sun mass via asteroid comets meteors. Exploded. Huge masses attacked everything including earth.

As they came direct to earth. Known.

It converted earths own natural origin...not a mass known to any man today and reacted it. Nuclear.

Scientists want you to be convinced it's where human life began. As if we were a sink hole of earths mass or a burning suns mass. As the two types he thinks upon first.

As that exact position a thought of a human said it's where both the light of heavens began and life on earth with light. Not any theory just a thought.

So they want you to believe you began life from an earth sin hole or you were once first personally a bio sun mass.

Which is about how much no sense he uses. Why theists speak nonsense.

Reasoned Satan's unholy star burning fell to earth and burnt his human mind into the designer mind human belief. Who designed gods cities civilisation himself under guise he was the man Satan science god then applied satanic nuclear ground technology.

So our holy human father wants you to realise spiritually as a human. That a living ape not a human but is alive is the body type nearly a human but not a human before your own.

Not sun mass.
Not a sin...sink hole.
Not an alien.
Not a machines program a human owns built controls as humans first.

An ape. As life was pre owned said a human seeing thinking stating ...as every two by two of its own species. Including its mutual man and woman human self.

That taught story was by humans versus human theists. Who today want you to believe you're part machine and AI.

Proving he doesn't even heed his own advice hasn't treated the woman life equally for most of his man life.

Whilst they data computer satellite transmitted and attacked everything by a mind contact coercion study. As humans thinking. Of mind control by human to human. As brain psychic studies.

They attacked us first by their program. Now use the program. Claiming they are proven correct. When they don't accept they attacked all things first by choice control and machine.

As they want us to be machines. Their choice human. Their belief human. Controlled by humans. Every determined theme human believed human wanted human thought and human controlled.

As humans said there wasn't ever a known story about why we existed.

As no one knew the eternal form of God. Exactly stated. Exactly taught no man is God. We don't know gods highest form and we lived planet earths highest form...human.

A teaching for human realisation versus theist destroyer science.
 
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