Religion and Classism

[ppp]

For all the people who say “if you can’t afford to have a kid don’t have sex”…Do you think sex should be a class privilege??

 

[Shadow Wolf]

What's religion got to do with it?

 

[Aupmanyav]

For all the people who say “if you can’t afford to have a kid don’t have sex”…Do you think sex should be a class privilege??

That is the sane thing to do, irrespective of the religion that one follows. We have this problem in India. The poor have more children than those who have money to care for them. So, my solution will be one child if one is not a tax payer. More permissible according to how much they pay to the government.

Chief Ministers Laloo Prasad and Rabri Devi (Bihar - husband, wife) have 9.

 

[Kenny]

For all the people who say “if you can’t afford to have a kid don’t have sex”…Do you think sex should be a class privilege??

There are rich people who can't afford to have children. And rich people who shouldn't have children.


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It's all in the mind and not class.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

There are rich people who can't afford to have children.

 

[VoidCat]

It's all in the mind and not class

I almost died from starvation as a kid. Poverty played a big role. That's a very privileged statement.

 

[Sheldon]

There are rich people who can't afford to have children.

You will need to explain this seemingly paradoxical statement sorry?

And rich people who shouldn't have children.

I imagine this is almost trivially true, but I'm not sure it addresses the thread OP?

Billionaires with no kids to leave their fortunes to lovemoney.com

I should rather they used it to help lift people out of poverty.

It's all in the mind and not class.

Well the notion of class is in the mind, it cannot be otherwise. Just because an idea is abstract and not real, doesn't mean it can't have real consequences.

 

[Kenny]

You will need to explain this seemingly paradoxical statement sorry?

There are rich people who say "I can't have children because it will interrupt where I want to be, what I do, and I don't want to be burdened by raising a child. I can't have a child because of it diverting my goals"

I imagine this is almost trivially true, but I'm not sure it addresses the thread OP?

It is an afterthought and doesn't address the thread. After 3 marriages and the destruction of the children's psyche through divorces, you probably shouldn't have any more children.

I should rather they used it to help lift people out of poverty.

True... true... good thought - we agree!

Well the notion of class is in the mind, it cannot be otherwise. Just because an idea is abstract and not real, doesn't mean it can't have real consequences.

As shown above, class isn't the only issue. I was poor (in my early years) but it wasn't a factor in having children.

 

[Spirit of Light]

For all the people who say “if you can’t afford to have a kid don’t have sex”…Do you think sex should be a class privilege??

I don't think one should take sex for granted.

 

[ppp]

I don't think one should take sex for granted.

I do not know what you are trying to say, or how it relates.

 

[Spirit of Light]

I do not know what you are trying to say, or how it relates.

It means, no matter if one are rich or poor sex is not someone one just get because one want it so one can't take it for granted

 

[ppp]

It means, no matter if one are rich or poor sex is not someone one just get because one want it so one can't take it for granted

Are you just saying that sex is not available just because one wants to have sex? I don't think any one would argue with that.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Are you just saying that sex is not available just because one wants to have sex? I don't think any one would argue with that.

No it can be in a relationship too

 

[ppp]

No it can be in a relationship too

I was including relationships. Just because one is in a relationship does not mean that sex is available just because one wants it. One's partner or partners may not be in the mood.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

What's religion got to do with it?

@Policy

Answer that question.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

There are rich people who can't afford to have children.

Whatever.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

There are rich people who say "I can't have children because it will interrupt where I want to be, what I do, and I don't want to be burdened by raising a child. I can't have a child because of it diverting my goals"

That is VERY different than being able to afford one.

 

[Kenny]

That is VERY different than being able to afford one.

As I said, I could not "afford" to have children but managed to birth three and we are alive and kicking.

Maybe it is more about no desire than capacity or selfishness than affordability?

 

[VoidCat]

As I said, I could not "afford" to have children but managed to birth three and we are alive and kicking.

Maybe it is more about no desire than capacity or selfishness than affordability?

Again. My parents had 4. They could not afford it. And I went 2 weeks without food at one point. In some cases it is about whether you can afford kids and not do you desire kids

 

[Kenny]

Again. My parents had 4. They could not afford it. And I went 2 weeks without food at one point. In some cases it is about whether you can afford kids and not do you desire kids

And yet, in Honduras where people experience much more lack, have beautiful loving homes and wouldn't trade their children for anything--even in their hardships.

Why? What accounts for the difference?

Edited:

And with all the food pantries and food stamps, how can one be without food in the US?