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Shroud of Turin is from first AD.

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What stage of pregnancy is your picture ? I have to inform you that there is more to the baby development in the womb than you seem to understand. Let’s help you out.

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You all need to call CDC and American Pregnancy.org and correct some people on their definitions.
 

Viker

Häxan
I didn't follow much of the debate on Shroud of Turin, is it from first AD or from Jesus' time, please?

Regards
Allegedly it's from around 55-70ish AD and from Masada. That corresponds more with the Roman siege on Masada around the same time. It could be from a rabbi of the period from Masada. That siege and the end result was a real horror show.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
The pictures of baby development are clear and what do you even mean by arbitrary autocratic? You’re saying I’m wrong about human life in the mother’s womb? Are you saying at conception that is not human life?

YES, you are wrong and making arbitrary delineations as to what is a human life and what is not based on a religious agenda that is not consistent in Christianity today nor in Christian history,

Are you legion, judge and jury as to what point in the chain of events of reproduction as to what is and is not human life?
 
YES, you are wrong and making arbitrary delineations as to what is a human life and what is not based on a religious agenda that is not consistent in Christianity today nor in Christian history,

Are you legion, judge and jury as to what point in the chain of events of reproduction as to what is and is not human life?
A human life cycle starts at pregnancy. That’s biology
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
The shroud is about a baby man's life returned says scientists. To human DNA. Then removed from human life again.

The shroud not any baby man.

Science is looking for god or have you suddenly forgot men claim they are a God?

So they are trying to work out how to kill us all off.

By crop circles owning fibre material of cloth used.

And what and when the number data related the fibre of man's life bio sacrificed. Having nothing at all to do with a humans life body actually.

As we own the bio life body now they are discussing.

Claiming they can do it again by atmosphere and still be safe themselves as man had lived on after the attack was stopped.

Yet their intentions is to hold it as a constant. Not as a one of attack.

They seem to forget the humans who survived also died naturally after.

As it's only sex that owns a baby life.

Is the message being imposed on the forum but no one's listening.

The shroud was evidence men of science agreed to knowingly sacrifice life until a God earth heavens and ground reaction stopped them was the answer.

As temples fell. So did some pyramids. Why a nuclear power plant can blow up in huge heavens storms or you make sink holes because human men lie.

The status to argue.

A ground condition isn't a humans position except to walk upon.

If there was enough water in stone no Little Silver ball would have been seen in crop circle forming. Was the reasoning.

A natural atmosphere allows all humans to die as a human. Why early age death is atmospheric caused too.

I always wondered how life could have allowed some humans birth when they don't want humans to exist personally.
 
This is irrelevant. Even if an embryo were a person, (which it is not) a person does not have the right to use someone elses body to support their life against their will.
The woman gave that person the right when she got pregnant.
At least everyone is clear what a woman is now
 

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
as you used that verse it was a breaking of the rules here.
I got banned for the previous verse, and the verse was deleted. But Holy Bible cannot be banned from RF forum:

Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.
 
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shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Let’s put this out there…I’m pro eternal life so it doesn’t get more pro life than that, I found eternal life through Jesus Christ.

Not really relevant to the discussion here would get closer to reality by considering the physical life of all life and humanity and the cycle of ALL life and humanity.

Life on the individual level, reproductive level, group level, and life as a whole is like a circle there is no beginning nor an endpoint,
 
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Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Let’s put this out there…I’m pro eternal life so it doesn’t get more pro life than that, I found eternal life through Jesus Christ.
Sorry, but that is pure BS. You as much as admitted that you are not prolife. You have shown yourself to be only antiabortion. A concept that is not even supported by the Bible.

Prolife involves much much more than benign antiabortion. In fact that really has almost nothing to do with being prolife.
 
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