Should Bahaism be allowed to be practiced in Iran.

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1. Their religion is political enemy with Muslims and Shiites.
2. Interpret Quran to support enemies against Shiites and Muslims.
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4. Support Israel #1 enemy of Iran.

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Thanks for letting me know Khomeini (q) and Khamanei (ha) were right about this. I thought it was just propaganda all this time against you guys.

 

[LuisDantas]

Feeble as secularism is in the USA, it is still hardly fair to compare the theocracy that is present day Iran to the USA.

The very idea that a government should reserve itself the right to decide whether a doctrine is "allowed" to spread is... weird and very dictatorial really.

But I have come to expect such misconceptions from Muslim perspectives.

 

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Feeble as secularism is in the USA, it is still hardly fair to compare the theocracy that is present day Iran to the USA.

The very idea that a government should reserve itself the right to decide whether a doctrine is "allowed" to spread is... weird and very dictatorial really.

But I have come to expect such misconceptions from Muslim perspectives.

It allows religions in general. Why not Bahaism, I never understood, but understand now. Their interpretation of Quran and their religion is done in political opposition to Shiite Muslims and they work against the Shiite Muslims as did they did during Shah time, and they continue now. This is not imagined, see what @InvestigateTruth says about verses and Shiite Muslims being punished by God.

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[9-10ths_Penguin]

1. Their religion is political enemy with Muslims and Shiites.
2. Interpret Quran to support enemies against Shiites and Muslims.
3. Their interpretations are cultish like in hate towards Shiites and Muslims and justify oppression they face as God's punishment
4. Support Israel #1 enemy of Iran.

After hearing @InvestigateTruth teach me this about his religion/cult, I don't believe Iran should allow them to propagate freely.

This would be like if US allows KKK as a religion to propagate or Hitler Nazism under a guise of a religion.

Thanks for letting me know Khomeini (q) and Khamanei (ha) were right about this. I thought it was just propaganda all this time against you guys.

Seeing how you're here encouraging hate against Baha'is, maybe it's Islam that should be banned... no?

 

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Seeing how you're here encouraging hate against Baha'is, maybe it's Islam that should be banned... no?

You can do what you want. But Bahaism interpretation of Quran justifies human suffering and oppression and see Muslims suffering as God's punishment and also have a messed interpretation that supports Zionism. They shouldn't be accepted as a real religion, they are hateful and with the oppressors.

Why should they be accepted when their religion is mixed with an interpretation that makes them work against the Muslims, Shiites, and Iran?

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[Spirit of Light]

1. Their religion is political enemy with Muslims and Shiites.
2. Interpret Quran to support enemies against Shiites and Muslims.
3. Their interpretations are cultish like in hate towards Shiites and Muslims and justify oppression they face as God's punishment
4. Support Israel #1 enemy of Iran.

After hearing @InvestigateTruth teach me this about his religion/cult, I don't believe Iran should allow them to propagate freely.

This would be like if US allows KKK as a religion to propagate or Hitler Nazism under a guise of a religion.

Thanks for letting me know Khomeini (q) and Khamanei (ha) were right about this. I thought it was just propaganda all this time against you guys.

YES....Baha'i religion should be allowed to be practiced in Iran too.
Honestly i seen a lot more love and kindness from RF members who are Baha'i than i have seen from you as a Shiite. Just saying.

 

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There's a huge difference with Muslims under Mohammad (s) and how they were happy with victory of Christians prophecy after some years of defeating their enemies after being in a severe state of weakness.

 

[Viker]

This would be like if US allows KKK as a religion to propagate or Hitler Nazism under a guise of a religion.

We have the Christian Identity movement in the US. It's basically what you mentioned right there. As long as they don't endorse, incite or participate in violence then they are free to do or say what ever else

 

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YES....Baha'i religion should be allowed to be practiced in Iran too.
Honestly i seen a lot more love and kindness from RF members who are Baha'i than i have seen from you as a Shiite. Just saying.

Meh, they hide their hate against us, while I'm honest about hating oppressors. The point is they justify Quran to justify oppressed state of people. ***STAFF EDIT***It's against national security of the country of Iran to allow them to do what they please in their country.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

You can do what you want.

I don't want to ban any religion. I'm just pointing out that your argument can just as easily be applied in the other direction.

But Bahaism interpretation of Quran justifies human suffering and oppression

The history of Baha'i persecution in Muslim-majority countries suggests that Islam also justifies human suffering and oppression.

and see Muslims suffering as God's punishment and also have a messed interpretation that supports Zionism.

But many Christian denominations also support Zionism. You aren't asking for them to be banned, are you?

They shouldn't be accepted as a real religion, they are hateful and with the oppressors.

... so they should be hatefully oppressed by Muslims?

Why should they be accepted when their religion is mixed with an interpretation that makes them work against the Muslims, Shiites, and Iran?

So? Your freedom of religion doesn't mean your religion is entitled to universal acceptance.

Same way you wouldn't accept KKK in your country, Bahaism should be rejected.

The KKK is a terrorist organization. What acts of terrorism have the Baha'is committed?

 

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We have the Christian Identity movement in the US. It's basically what you mentioned right there. As long as they don't endorse, incite or participate in violence then they are free to do or say what ever else

If some religion justified terrorism against US and killing civilians, would you allow it? This not different for me, with Bahaism justifying Zionism under Quran, and oppression we face as God's punishment.

 

[LuisDantas]

It allows religions in general. Why not Bahaism, I never understood, but understand now. Their interpretation of Quran and their religion is done in political opposition to Shiite Muslims and they work against the Shiite Muslims as did they did during Shah time, and they continue now. This is not imagined, see what @InvestigateTruth says about verses and Shiite Muslims being punished by God.

Same way KKK should not be allowed to be spread in US.

What do you mean with "religions in general"? What can you tell me about religious freedom in Iran?

Are you aware that the Qur'an is deeply inimical to even other Abrahamics?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Meh, they hide their hate against us, while I'm honest about hating oppressors.

No you aren't.

You aren't standing up to oppression; you're advocating oppression. You are on the side of the oppressors.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Meh, they hide their hate against us, while I'm honest about hating oppressors. The point is they justify Quran to justify oppressed state of people. This is cultish and should not be allowed, because, will work with oppressors in this case against their country. It's against national security of the country of Iran to allow them to do what they please in their country.

Again none of your words spread love and kindness, sound more like you belong to a dark version of Islam.
FYI I just being honest too.

 

[LuisDantas]

Meh, they hide their hate against us, while I'm honest about hating oppressors. The point is they justify Quran to justify oppressed state of people. This is cultish and should not be allowed, because, will work with oppressors in this case against their country. It's against national security of the country of Iran to allow them to do what they please in their country.

Actually, the Bahais are very consistently the greatest non-Muslim defenders of Islam and Islamic communities.

They have their own reasons for that, and I don't think those are very laudable, but that is how it goes.

 

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What acts of terrorism have the Baha'is committed?

They committed crimes and killing of Shiites under Shah and worked with the Shah against Shiites. This was primary reason they weren't accepted I thought, but realize now their religion teaches them to justify oppression of believers including supporting Zionism and seeing Shiites and Muslims suffer as God's punishment.

 

[LuisDantas]

They support Israel. How is that peaceful?

That is a very good question which I don't think you have considered with nearly enough attention.

 

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Again none of your words spread love and kindness, sound more like you belong to a dark version of Islam.
FYI I just being honest too.

My experience is people who speak of love and kindness too much, always stand with oppressors against oppressed, and usually never the other way. But what do I know.

Perhaps hate and retribution and belief in hell suppose to have a place to make us fear God and side with oppressed. But what do I know.

 

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That is a very good question which I don't think you have considered with nearly enough attention.

Oh I have, I know the details. It's cowards only and hypocrites with no backbone or oppressors or racists, that side with Zionism only.

 

[Spirit of Light]

My experience is people who speak of love and kindness too much, always stand with oppressors against oppressed, and usually never the other way. But what do I know.

Perhaps hate and retribution and belief in hell suppose to have a place to make us fear God and side with oppressed. But what do I know.

What is very clear is that you can't fight hate and retribution with hate and ill will. That only create more hate.